Important change to MOSS 2007 for Internet Sites (MOSSFIS) licensing

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Important change to MOSS 2007 for Internet Sites (MOSSFIS) licensing

Bart Wessels' Blog — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 20:57:08 GMT

Tom heeft een belangrijke aanpassing in de licentie structuur van SharePoint aangekondigd via de SharePoint...

Importante cambio en las licencias de MOSS 2007 a partir del 1 de Septiembre de 2007

Jorge Serrano - MVP Visual Developer - Visual Basic — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 21:07:36 GMT

Microsoft, el equipo de SharePoint y en concreto Tom Rizzo, Director of Product Management, ha anunciado

re: Important change to MOSS 2007 for Internet Sites (MOSSFIS) licensing

Yonah — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 16:52:39 GMT

So does this mean I can run MOSS as both an Intranet and an Extranet?

re: Important change to MOSS 2007 for Internet Sites (MOSSFIS) licensing

jdb_1715 — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 20:44:08 GMT

I have a question.. what if you have purchased the Standard CAL's for the Intranet? I believe the Internet version is only available with the Enterprise features. Is this still allowed? Can you have one server (Extranet) with the Enterprise features and another WFE server (Intranet) with the Standard features?

re: Important change to MOSS 2007 for Internet Sites (MOSSFIS) licensing

jdb_1715 — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 20:48:16 GMT

Here is another question/scenario that would be helpful in our implementations. Now that MOSS is moving beyond simple document mgmt in terms of functionality, it would be nice to be able to include a server in the farm that allow different clint licenses. As an example, lets say that we have a 3000 person deployment of Standard CALs MOSS for an intranet. However, there is a small group (say about 200 people) that need the funtionality of Forms Server because they want to use MOSS more as an application. Currently, I believe to have them on the same farm, we would need to purchase Enterprise CALs (or just Forms Server CALs) for all 3000 people.. but that's overkill and knocks MOSS out of the running. Is there a way to add another server to a farm that would have the Forms Server and just license it so that only those 200 people would need the Enterprise CALs? Thanks in advance.

re: Important change to MOSS 2007 for Internet Sites (MOSSFIS) licensing

KDC — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 21:15:38 GMT

So let me make sure I understand this correctly...

Suppose I want a site that is password-protected and is accessible by a client company of 500 people. They will be creating sites and subsites, and collaborating on documents, etc. Some sites will not be available to other employees (e.g. financial info, or even document workspaces).

With this scenario, I would have to purchase the MOSSIF, the Standard license, the enterprise license (if they're using any of those features), and CAL's for all of MY people that access the site. Correct? That is what I was told by MS about 2 weeks ago. How is that different now?

re: Important change to MOSS 2007 for Internet Sites (MOSSFIS) licensing

Aaron — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 00:58:41 GMT

A big problem I see with MOSS licensing is for intranet / internet WCM. We were able to build an award winning intranet site that services 11,000 clients for about 30k in licensing (CMS Enterprise server based license). This also gave us a very fast / stable staged internet site.

We are now told this option is not available for the next generation product (MOSS), and we must move to a CAL model for intranet. Since we aren't interested in an EA, we must end up spending an order of magnitude more in order to acheive functional equivalence. Not nice!

Whats more the data migration path from CMS to MOSS is VERY error prone, I had an MS support case open for 3 months and it was closed unresolved because the migration profiles do not work except for the simplest of sites. We would need to spend another 10k on the tool from Metalogix to get the job done right.

These are some issues that, if acted upon, will keep a large manufacturing client. But in the mean time we are giving serious consideration to your WCM competitors.

Why not make it attractive for SMB?

Venkatarangan TNC — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 12:04:20 GMT

This is a welcome move. I wish the price for MOSSFIS is also relooked at. Currently at $40K per server MOSSFIS is not viable for many of the SMB customers. MCMS 2002 had a Standard Edition at $6K, something in that order will be welcome. We have lost several orders to competing products because of the pricing issue.

re: Important change to MOSS 2007 for Internet Sites (MOSSFIS) licensing

HL Kok — Sat, 29 Sep 2007 01:59:26 GMT

I have few questions to clarify my understanding of MOSS Licensing change:

1) Can we now implement MOSS on a single server to support Intranet, Extranet, and Internet usage?

2) Follow-up on the Question #1, do we need to purchase both MOSS and MOSSFIS licenses or we just need to purchase MOSSFIS license if we want to support the latter usage?

3) If we want to do load balancing on our server infrastructure, where we dedicate the index search on a single box and have another MOSS server that supports Intranet, Extranet and Internet usage, what will be the recommended licensing that we'll need to purchase for this scenario?

Looking forward to hear respond soon.

Thanks!

re: Important change to MOSS 2007 for Internet Sites (MOSSFIS) licensing

P Shum — Wed, 03 Oct 2007 23:43:05 GMT

I have the same questions #1 and #2 as HL Kok posted on 9/28/07. Any answers?? I need to know asap!

Thanks!

re: Important change to MOSS 2007 for Internet Sites (MOSSFIS) licensing

Joe — Thu, 04 Oct 2007 15:13:44 GMT

We have encountered a similar experience to Aaron with the "MOSS licensing is for intranet / internet WCM".

With 15,000 clients running from a MCMS Ent. Intranet site the licensing aspect was non-issue with a CAL based approach for a MOSS WCM Intranet site it has become a real issue and like Aaron we are investigating alternatives.

A license update which addressed this scenario would be welcomed.

Important change to MOSS 2007 for Internet Sites (MOSSFIS) licensing

Craig Bailey's Link Blog — Sat, 06 Oct 2007 06:10:25 GMT

From Tom Rizzo, news about a change to MOSSFIS licensing : I'm happy to say that beginning Sept 1

SharePoint Internet Lizensierung geändert

SharePoint, SharePoint and stuff — Mon, 08 Oct 2007 15:42:12 GMT

Aus dem SharePoint Team Blog Office SharePoint Server 2007 and Office SharePoint Server 2007 for Internet

re: Important change to MOSS 2007 for Internet Sites (MOSSFIS) licensing

Ricardo Casaca — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 16:19:09 GMT

I have some questions about WSS 3.0.

For a scenario where i want to use forms authentication, and give access to registered users that dont belong to my company. How do i license this users? Or wich type of license should i have? Do i need the external connector?

Thanks in advance

SharePoint 2007 (MOSS) Licensing Changes

Sharepoint BUZZ — Fri, 12 Oct 2007 03:46:37 GMT

On the SharePoint Team blog, Tom Rizzo (Director of Product Management), has just announced changes to MOSS licensing. Since its launch, if you wanted to have a public facing site, then you needed to have two different servers: one for the internal si..

MOSS Licensing changed

Portals & Integration blog — Sat, 13 Oct 2007 18:51:33 GMT

Finally, according to this post on the Sharepoint blog,Microsoft changed the licensing model of MOSS.

Having troube in achieving project server redundancy

alokeda — Sun, 18 Nov 2007 18:47:03 GMT

I have a similar architecture. I am having trouble in achieving the redundancy in project server role. I have two web server which are serving WFE and Query role, two server for project server role and one dedicated index server. whenever one project server is down, project web access does not respond. i have started the service in differet server as below:

In both Web server: WSS web application, query

In both Project server: Project application server (stopped WSS web application)

In Index server: Search service (stopped WSS web application).

Can you please tell me why the project application server does not respond if one of them is down?

Thanks,

Aloke

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