MotoGP: localization

re: MotoGP: localization

Metalov — Mon, 02 Mar 2009 16:08:52 GMT

"but uglier because it was written in C with manual memory management and no events" Oh Shawn are you one of those who actually think OOP is so coool,much more convenient, and smarter ?IMO we're losing hours & hours because of OOP and encapsulation writing getters and setters !

It reminds me one of my teacher who used to warn us about goto ; i always wondered if he even wrote one assembly line ... compiler output is full of jumps and if you call it unreadable why call yourself a programmer ?

re: MotoGP: localization

JoelBennett — Mon, 02 Mar 2009 18:37:32 GMT

Metalov:

It's not about OOP, it's about having a language and tools that are a lot cleaner, and faster to work with. Working with managed languages like C# is a dream come true - no more worrying about null pointers, allocating memory, deallocating memory, built in things for events, etc.

If you are spending hours writing getters and setters, you are doing it wrong. Even plain vanilla visual studio has refactoring tools to do just that for you. Add-ons such as ReSharper make it even more efficient.

You're welcome to go back to using C and assembly, but I'll stick with C# and XNA. :)

P.S.: I think Shawn knows what he's talking about. He's worked on how many games that have actually been shipped?

re: MotoGP: localization

ShawnHargreaves — Mon, 02 Mar 2009 20:43:17 GMT

Metalov: I'm actually a big fan of multi-paradigm programming (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi-paradigm_programming_language). Different problems are best solved in different ways. For me, the most powerful programming languages are those that provides me with a wide range of tools, so I can select the most appropriate one for any given task.

In this case I wasn't actually talking about object oriented programming at all (although I generally would use objects when implementing a menu system: this is one case where I find objects tend to be a more natural fit than an imperative or functional style). I was actually talking about automatic memory management and events, though: two C# features that are independent of whether or not you use objects, but which I found made this kind of screen and menu management code much simpler and easier to work with.

re: MotoGP: localization

Metalov — Tue, 03 Mar 2009 01:32:30 GMT

Ok I understand :) But don't get me wrong XNA is a pure wonder especially when it comes to productivity.With your great framework even learning students are able to produce stunning results in no time.One of my first book was "Michael Abrash's Graphics Programming Black Book", I stil remember these days when we had no HW zbuffer,no directX, when it took pages & pages of assembly & C to do some basic things ... while the book was very very instructive; I don't want that pain back!

re: MotoGP: localization

paulecoyote — Wed, 18 Mar 2009 00:13:37 GMT

That's an interesting insight in to your localisation experiences, thanks :-) Slightly tangential, but do you know of any middle-ware that deals with that kind of thing? Something like Havok is to physics... something that solves localisation related issues.