Translation Guide between Managed Extensions and the new C++/CLI binding Available

re: Translation Guide between Managed Extensions and the new C++/CLI binding Available

Ben — Sun, 22 Aug 2004 08:01:00 GMT

I believe the link should really point to http://msdn.microsoft.com/visualc/default.aspx?pull=/library/en-us/dnvs05/html/TransGuide.asp not to https://mail.microsoft.com/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=http://msdn.microsoft.com/visualc/default.aspx?pull=/library/en-us/dnvs05/html/TransGuide.asp which seems to be copied from OWA

Some excited new C++/CLI features mentioned in the Visual C++ FAQ

Alexei — Mon, 23 Aug 2004 09:32:00 GMT

Stan,

A FAQ for Visual C++ released recently: http://msdn.microsoft.com/visualc/productinfo/faq/default.aspx#C++/CLI

The FAQ mentions a couple of features for which no info was available previously. Specifically see the section about features to be impelemented in RTM which are not in Beta 1:
1) Ref classes with automatic storage duration, including destructors, copy constructors (!), and assignment (!). (no example given)
2) Operators (instance and global). (the example shows a ref class with an instance operator+())

The above features make ref classes much closer to native classes in C++. Could you explain what those features are and how are they going to be different from the corresponding features of the standard C++?

re: Translation Guide between Managed Extensions and the new C++/CLI binding Available

Albert — Mon, 23 Aug 2004 16:09:00 GMT

When can we expect to see "mscfront" in beta? I have thousands of lines of code in the old syntax and I would love to test the migration utility.

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Rjae Easton — Tue, 24 Aug 2004 01:15:00 GMT

A Wiki topic could provide a venue for dissemination and refinement while off-loading "comment management" from your plate.

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stan lippman — Tue, 24 Aug 2004 01:24:00 GMT

honestly, i don't know what that involves. i've looked at wiki once or twice but i don't have any clue how to set it up ... hint, hint ...

re: Translation Guide between Managed Extensions and the new C++/CLI binding Available

stan lippman — Fri, 27 Aug 2004 08:19:00 GMT

albert asks, when can we expect to see mscfront in beta.

my conception of the tool is that it will be made available for download as an informal or `brown bag' binary [similar to how cfront 1.0 was released] on or around the time of beta2 ...

it will not be released `in the box' and i imagine that i will post fixes to it as needed on a weekly or if necessary daily basis.

it will come with a user guide, the translation guide. there are currently no plans to release it as source, but that may change -- probably depending on how useless it is viewed :-)

hopefully that answers more questions than it raises. ...

re: Translation Guide between Managed Extensions and the new C++/CLI binding Available

stan lippman — Fri, 27 Aug 2004 08:27:00 GMT

Alexei asks,
1) Ref classes with automatic storage duration, including destructors, copy constructors (!), and assignment (!). (no example given)

-- yes, this is not turned on with the original beta1; we just released a `refresh' today and i didn't check if that includes it -- you can read about it in my blog entry on `deterministic finalization' and within the translation guide -- hopefully i fixed the link -- thanks for those who commented -- in particular Eric Jarvi of msft who actually exlained to me what happened.

2) Operators (instance and global). (the example shows a ref class with an instance operator+())

yes, again. the design team impressed me with this -- i was worried this would overwhelm -- the ability to define a global, instance, and static operator+, for example.

however, you cannot write a function object without the ability to overload the call operator (()), and the stl/cli port needed this sort of ability.

so, yes to both your questions, although you may not find my answers providing sufficient detail.

what you and everyone SHOULD DO is download the refresh of beta 1 -- the team here worked very hard, and have provided both additional functionality (yes!) and significant bug fixes. so this is the bag of bits to begin pounding on.

stan

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