VS 2005 Product Line-up :: A Picture Says 1,000 Words

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Kevin Daly — Wed, 06 Apr 2005 05:17:16 GMT

Informative post.

One of those diagrams left me confused about something though: Is the Class Designer included with Visual Studio 2005 Professional or not? I'd previously got the impression that it was, but from the diagram it looks like it isn't.
That would be a shame, big time.

Like everybody else I will of course grizzle about the fact that unit testing support isn't included from top to bottom, but at least for that we'll probably have NUnit...my last petulant whine would be about the fact that the SKUs embody certain assumptions about the demarcation of roles and who needs what that don't reflect the reality for many development environments (but then we all know that marketing departments are invariably staffed by people who'll be lined up against a wall when the revolution comes).

But I don't want to distract from my original question: What's the deal with the Class Designer?

re: VS 2005 Product Line-up :: A Picture Says 1,000 Words

TAG — Wed, 06 Apr 2005 11:44:33 GMT

LOL

"Don’t forget that MSDN Universal is a subscription service that will provide you with all* of the new products for Development and testing purposes "

(*) At the moment of posting - all mean "all, but for only one Team System role".
In future - meaning of word "all" is subject to changes.

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Forest Blog — Thu, 07 Apr 2005 08:07:10 GMT

re: VS 2005 Product Line-up :: A Picture Says 1,000 Words

smcbreen — Thu, 07 Apr 2005 11:32:07 GMT

Hi Kevin,

The Class Designer _is_ included in all versions of Visual Studio with the exception of the Express editions so Professional and Standard along with all VSTS SKU's will include it ;)

Here's a post from the product group themselves...
http://blogs.msdn.com/classdesigner/archive/2005/03/26/402319.aspx

Also a great Blog - I'd recommend it...

Cheers,
Sean

re: VS 2005 Product Line-up :: A Picture Says 1,000 Words

Mike Gale — Fri, 15 Apr 2005 05:53:48 GMT

I've always liked the MS attitude to developers. In this case (VSTS) you're clearly addressing a different market, not me.

I need deployment diagrams, testing (not just unit, integration etc. but the tools do that anyway), coverage, profiling etc. etc. (Forced specialisation, forget it.)

In other words items that need the three SKU's.

I think you are too far down the road (securing that smallish number of high revenue accounts) to change direction. I will continue with my own version of NSuite on top of VS. (Vault, CodeSMART, Enterprise Architect for UML, MBUnit, TestDriven.NET etc.). It's a pity. You guys do a great job of developer software, and what was shown at Connect looked very promising.

re: VS 2005 Product Line-up :: A Picture Says 1,000 Words

Dewayne Christensen — Fri, 15 Apr 2005 16:42:44 GMT

The second picture makes it look like the architect and tester editions are subsets of the developer edition. If this is the case, and all three editions are the same price, then why would anyone pick anything but the developer edition?

Or are there features in those two that aren't included in the developer edition and aren't shown on the chart?

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