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Visual Studio 2008 and .NET Framework 3.5 shipped!

I am thrilled to announce that earlier today we shipped Visual Studio 2008 and .NET Framework 3.5.

 

Over the past few months, I have blogged about some incredible features that the team working on Visual Studio 2008 and .NET Framework 3.5 have built.  I wanted to share these with you so that you can get a flavor of a few of the several hundred features that are a part of this release.  The entire family of Visual Studio products (from the Express Editions to the Professional version to Visual Studio Team Suite) and .NET Framework 3.5 are available for immediate download here.

 

I am incredibly proud to be a part of the team that is truly advancing the state of developer tools.  We know we could not have done this alone and I wish to thank you all (the community, customers and early adopters) who have provided incredibly valuable feedback to make these products the right ones.

 

When I look back over the last few years at how we were able to ship these two products, I truly believe that both our customer input and our renewed focus on intentional engineering allowed us to release a great product in the timeline that we originally set out to hit.  We adopted Team Foundation Server to manage this release and to collect data and enable reporting on our progress.  It was incredibly helpful to me personally to be able to view our progress in real time.  Just adopting TFS, however, was not the silver bullet – it was just a vehicle to enable the behaviors we desired.  TFS enables process enactment, collects a lot of data, and enables reporting on it.  It provides visibility to everyone and it enables enforcement of certain things.  I had a chance to film a Channel9 video talking about this that you can check out.

 

We hope that Visual Studio 2008 and .NET Framework 3.5 enables you as an individual or as a team to build great applications.  Whether you are a professional developer or a software enthusiast, are building applications for the client, server, web, or devices we hope you have fun with these products as your software is our passion.

 

Namaste!

Posted: Monday, November 19, 2007 8:46 AM by Somasegar

Comments

Scott Lezberg said:

Congratulations - this is FANTASTIC!!!!

# November 19, 2007 11:57 AM

Noah Coad said:

It's official!  The product we've all be waiting for is released!  It's been a fun ride. 

# November 19, 2007 11:57 AM

Allan's Best Week Ever said:

Fantastic news! Soma has all the details . Additional and up to date information is available on the

# November 19, 2007 11:58 AM

Chris Bowen's Blog said:

Visual Studio 2008 & .NET 3.5 We've just announced the RTM (release to manufacturing) of Visual Studio

# November 19, 2007 12:04 PM

said:

YEAAAAHHH! Check out the details on Soma's and Brian Harry's blog :-) For those who simply can't wait

# November 19, 2007 12:04 PM

said:

YEAAAAHHH! Check out the details on Soma's and Brian Harry's blog :-) For those who simply can't wait

# November 19, 2007 12:04 PM

said:

YEAAAAHHH! Check out the details on Soma's and Brian Harry's blog :-) For those who simply can't wait

# November 19, 2007 12:05 PM

Kirk Allen Evans's Blog said:

Soma announced that VS2008 and .NET 3.5 shipped today . Reading Don's post on the VS2008 ship date is

# November 19, 2007 12:05 PM

Notes from a dark corner said:

Looks like we may all be needing that training kit I blogged about earlier . Soma has just announced

# November 19, 2007 12:11 PM

Small place on earth said:

Momentul mult așteptat este aici: Visual Studio 2008 împreună cu .NET Fx 3.5 s-au lansat. Edițiile Express

# November 19, 2007 12:12 PM

B# .NET Blog said:

It's my pleasure to tell you we shipped VS2008 and .NET FX 3.5 today. Soma has all the details on

# November 19, 2007 12:12 PM

Dag H. Baardsen said:

Very nice, but how long do we have to wait for the Team Developer edition? Only the Team Suite is available for download from MSDN subscriptions.

# November 19, 2007 12:14 PM

Jeff Beehler's Blog said:

What else can I say? The big day has arrived (read the official word here on Soma's blog ) and we're

# November 19, 2007 12:15 PM

Elan Hasson's Favorite Blogs said:

It's my pleasure to tell you we shipped VS2008 and .NET FX 3.5 today. Soma has all the details on

# November 19, 2007 12:18 PM

Wooley's Wonderings said:

It's offical, Soma annouced on his blog that the 3.5 .Net Framework along with Visual Studio 2008 have...

# November 19, 2007 12:19 PM

Matt's Musings said:

# November 19, 2007 12:24 PM

Sandcastle said:

Microsoft officially released Visual Studio 2008 and .NET FX 3.5! Soma in his blog announced the above

# November 19, 2007 12:25 PM

The Visual Basic Team said:

Hooray! Today we’ve finally shipped Visual Studio 2008, previously known as “Orcas”, previously known

# November 19, 2007 12:27 PM

Ian Ceicys said:

Congratulations DevDiv! This is tremendous!

# November 19, 2007 12:31 PM

Windows Workflow Foundation (WF) - blogg in swedish said:

But where is Visual Studio 2008 Professional Edition?! Cant find it on MSDN or on the attached link..

# November 19, 2007 12:31 PM

danielfe said:

Visual Studio 2008 Express Editions are also available for immediate download at http://www.microsoft.com/express

# November 19, 2007 12:36 PM

Paul Andrew said:

Get your new RTM bits now. I'm running Visual Studio 2008 on my box Soma announced it here today. The

# November 19, 2007 12:36 PM

WF Community Bloggers said:

Hot off the presses, you can get it now from MSDN subscriber downloads or the trial version . See Soma's

# November 19, 2007 12:37 PM

Rodrigo Díaz said:

Como bien ya lo anunció Misa, y lo confirman algunos posts en Channel 9 ya está disponible a partir del

# November 19, 2007 12:42 PM

Josh's Windows Weblog said:

Hey Dev's... Visual Studio 2008 and the .Net 3.5 framework have shipped and are now on MSDN downloads

# November 19, 2007 12:42 PM

US ISV Developer Evangelism Team said:

Start pointing your browsers at MSDN and grab the RTM bits of VS 2008 & .NET 3.5, they've shipped

# November 19, 2007 12:44 PM

Mehrdad Afshari said:

Wow! Great news!

Thank you dev div guys! you rock!

# November 19, 2007 12:45 PM

Pietro Brambati Blog said:

Ok, non molti commenti a questa notizia, giusto i link a chi di voi vuole scaricarla subito. Post ufficale

# November 19, 2007 12:46 PM

Doug Seven said:

Here is the official word from Jeff Beehler, the Team System Chief of Staff, and the really official

# November 19, 2007 12:47 PM

Windows Embedded Blog said:

Visual Studio 2008 and the .NET Framework 3.5 (and the .NET Compact Framework 3.5) has shipped - more

# November 19, 2007 12:49 PM

Aaron Stebner's WebLog said:

As noted this morning in this post on Soma's blog , the final release of Visual Studio 2008 and the .NET

# November 19, 2007 12:50 PM

Beth Massi - Sharing the goodness that is VB said:

Early holiday gifts from Microsoft! Today we announced the release of Visual Studio 2008 and .NET Framework

# November 19, 2007 12:51 PM

Bilal Haidar [MVP, MCT] said:

I would like to inform you that VS 2008 is now available for MSDN Subscribers!! Go it now :)   Lots

# November 19, 2007 12:52 PM

WillyXoft .NET said:

S. “Soma” Somasegar anuncia en la entrada de su blog que ¡Visual Studio 2008 y...

# November 19, 2007 12:52 PM

Noticias externas said:

As noted this morning in this post on Soma's blog , the final release of Visual Studio 2008 and the

# November 19, 2007 1:01 PM

Noticias externas said:

Visual Studio 2008 and the .NET Framework 3.5 (and the .NET Compact Framework 3.5) has shipped - more

# November 19, 2007 1:01 PM

Jonas said:

Congrats and good job! :-)

# November 19, 2007 1:01 PM

Noticias externas said:

Early holiday gifts from Microsoft! Today we announced the release of Visual Studio 2008 and .NET Framework

# November 19, 2007 1:02 PM

msdn Austria said:

Auf der TechEd Developers in Barcelona hatte S. Somasegar, GM der Developer Division von Microsoft versprochen,

# November 19, 2007 1:02 PM

Noticias externas said:

Here is the official word from Jeff Beehler, the Team System Chief of Staff, and the really official

# November 19, 2007 1:02 PM

Jimboobla Aspect said:

Greates news, I was now downloading Visual Studio 2008 with much excitement!!!!

# November 19, 2007 1:21 PM

Paul Mooney said:

Visual Studio 2008 and .NET Framework 3.5 shipped! This morning Microsoft shipped Visual Studio...

# November 19, 2007 1:32 PM

Reddy said:

Thank you and Congratulations to the team.

# November 19, 2007 1:33 PM

Darryl Burling @ Work said:

Yup.  This morning (PST time) Visual Studio 2008 RTM'd.  Its already on MSDN, so go get it..

# November 19, 2007 1:46 PM

Matt W's Windows Workflow Place said:

As widely reported on blogs far and wide , Visual Studio 2008 has been released to manufacturing (or

# November 19, 2007 1:53 PM

Steve Digg said:

These all look like fake comments!  Excellent, great, fantastic, yah right...

# November 19, 2007 1:55 PM

rob a. said:

so is this version the best ever and last to be made because there's no way microsoft could make this better?  or is there something always in the works for microsoft to continously make some $$$ every few years claiming every version is better than the previous?  spend spend spend... build, rebuild, build again...

# November 19, 2007 1:58 PM

Noticias externas said:

As widely reported on blogs far and wide , Visual Studio 2008 has been released to manufacturing (or

# November 19, 2007 2:03 PM

Noticias externas said:

Yup.  This morning (PST time) Visual Studio 2008 RTM'd.  Its already on MSDN, so go get

# November 19, 2007 2:03 PM

Jason Zander's WebLog said:

Today we released to manufacturing Visual Studio 2008 and .NET Framework 3.5!  I want to congratulate

# November 19, 2007 2:03 PM

someone said:

Amazing, this IDE just keeps getting more powerful. Congrats to your team.

1.  Will 2005 Express editions remain available for download and for how long?

2.  Is pricing the same? Can I upgrade from 2005 Standard to 2008 Pro for the upgrade price?

3.  Will retail purchase be only available after the February launch?

4.  Any other minor features dropped in 2008 apart from J#?

5.  All websites will be updated soon or after the launch? I would like a detailed comparison table for editions, more detailed than the one for VS 2005. Is developing a Windows service for example not available yet in Standard edition?

6.  Are there ANY plans for servicing .NET 1.1 SP1?

# November 19, 2007 2:03 PM

Brent said:

Outstanding! This is fantastic news Soma. We plan on rolling over to 2008 in our office as soon as we can get our hands on it.

# November 19, 2007 2:09 PM

Konstantin said:

Congratulations!

# November 19, 2007 2:14 PM

Dev Conversations with the Communications Sector (Rob Cameron) said:

Soma announced that VS2008 and .NET 3.5 shipped today . It is available via MSDN Downloads for subscribers

# November 19, 2007 2:22 PM

Linq in Action News said:

All you need to work with LINQ (Visual Studio 2008 and .NET 3.5) is now finalized! The final release

# November 19, 2007 2:23 PM

My VSTS Blog said:

The net has been a flurry of activity over the past few hours as word gets out that MSDN Subscribers

# November 19, 2007 2:34 PM

Steve said:

Maybe my definition of "shipped" is different from everyone else's, but nothing has "shipped."  You guys released a product to manufacturing.  Sure it is available through MSDN, but this is not the same as shipping.  

# November 19, 2007 2:40 PM

ASP.NET and Testing said:

We've officially released ASP.NET 3.5 today, you can get it as part of .NET Framework 3.5 from here

# November 19, 2007 2:44 PM

Noticias externas said:

Soma announced that VS2008 and .NET 3.5 shipped today . It is available via MSDN Downloads for subscribers

# November 19, 2007 3:08 PM

See Win App said:

This is a pretty exciting day as Visual Studio 2008 has shipped. This is the first product I've shipped

# November 19, 2007 3:46 PM

Alex said:

.NET 3.5 and VS 2008 are just really great.

Today we launched http://blogs.dotnetgerman.com/ running on .NET 3.5.

It was great fun developing this using VS 2008.

# November 19, 2007 3:49 PM

Harold van de Kamp .NET Blog said:

Today the Visual Studio 2008 and .NET Framework 3.5 have been released. Both will be officially launched

# November 19, 2007 3:51 PM

Greg Robinson's Blog said:

It's official

# November 19, 2007 3:55 PM

BUGBUG: poor title said:

You've probably all seen Soma's announcement that the 2008 suite of products officially shipped this

# November 19, 2007 4:23 PM

Gary said:

The downloads are not available in MSDN Subscriber Downloads. Only the readme is available. There are links on the main subscription page, but they just post back to the same page.

# November 19, 2007 4:32 PM

frankarr - an aussie microsoft blogger said:

from Somasegar's WebLog - Visual Studio 2008 and .NET Framework 3.5 shipped! Even Better News Visual

# November 19, 2007 4:39 PM

Дмитрий Лапшин said:

Официально: Visual Studio 2008 and .NET Framework 3.5 shipped! Комментарии, как говорится, излишни Уточню

# November 19, 2007 4:40 PM

Wooley's LINQ Wonderings said:

It's offical, Soma annouced on his blog that the 3.5 .Net Framework along with Visual Studio 2008 have

# November 19, 2007 4:53 PM

Gill Cleeren said:

Great news! Congrats on the RTM!

# November 19, 2007 4:55 PM

Noticias externas said:

You've probably all seen Soma's announcement that the 2008 suite of products officially shipped

# November 19, 2007 5:08 PM

Mike said:

Great news!

Can you please consider lowering the prices and dropping the cross cutting SKU's, just one edition for € 500 would be great. It's only natural because most .NET developers actually add value to Windows, so why make money off them? If IBM and Sun can do it, surely Microsoft can? Please let us know your thoughts on this, thank you!

# November 19, 2007 5:16 PM

Geir Morten Allum's MS application platform hvor, hva, når, hvorfor, osv... said:

Ting går unna her og produktteamet er godt i rute. Den store dagen har kommet og VSTS 2008 Team Suite

# November 19, 2007 5:19 PM

MegP_MS said:

Gary - All skus should be available for download.  If you are having trouble with the download page, you should be able to get support via one of these two options:

Online Concierge:

https://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-US/subscriptions/manage/default.aspx?CA=Chat

Or, Subscription Support:

http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/subscriptions/aa948875.aspx

# November 19, 2007 5:28 PM

Andrew Karcher's Bits o' Data said:

I know that Visual Studio 2008 is getting most of the press today for releasing, but there was also a...

# November 19, 2007 5:47 PM

Noticias externas said:

Ting går unna her og produktteamet er godt i rute. Den store dagen har kommet og VSTS 2008 Team Suite

# November 19, 2007 6:10 PM

Snowball - The Blog said:

# November 19, 2007 6:28 PM

Craig Johnson said:

When will VS2008 Team Suite (FULL NOT TRIAL) be available for d/l to MSDN subscribers?

# November 19, 2007 6:46 PM

Sunny Nagi said:

Coming straight from Somasegar's blog - Visual Studio 2008 and .Net framework 3.5 have been shipped!

# November 19, 2007 6:49 PM

MegP_MS said:

Craig - The full VS2008 Team Suite is available for download for MSDN Subscribers here http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/subscriptions/default.aspx

Enjoy!

# November 19, 2007 6:56 PM

Brooke Philpott said:

Meg,

I'm not seeing this in the subscriber downloads. Perhaps because my subscriber downloads come via partner status? All I have is a VS2008 readme.

# November 19, 2007 7:16 PM

BCL Team Blog said:

.NET Framework 3.5 and Visual Studio 2008 have officially shipped! Soma has the announcement on his blog

# November 19, 2007 7:39 PM

Noticias externas said:

.NET Framework 3.5 and Visual Studio 2008 have officially shipped! Soma has the announcement on his blog

# November 19, 2007 8:12 PM

bkchung's WebLog said:

Visual Studio (메인 페이지) Visual Studio Development System (VS2008 정보 페이지) Somasegar's WebLog : Visual Studio

# November 19, 2007 9:33 PM

黑*马 said:

Visual Studio 2008英文正式版已经发布在MSDN

# November 19, 2007 9:43 PM

Noticias externas said:

Visual Studio (메인 페이지) Visual Studio Development System (VS2008 정보 페이지) Somasegar's WebLog : Visual

# November 19, 2007 10:15 PM

Sekhar Sirigiri said:

Hi,

 Congratulations....BTW just curious.....would like to know what is "Intentional Engineering"?

- Sekhar

# November 19, 2007 11:47 PM

Panopticon Central said:

# November 20, 2007 12:28 AM

Fdesign Blog said:

# November 20, 2007 2:10 AM

Tony said:

>>The downloads are not available in MSDN Subscriber >>Downloads. Only the readme is available. There are links >>on the main subscription page, but they just post back to >>the same page.

The same thing was happening to me until I remembered to turn off my popup blocker.

# November 20, 2007 2:23 AM

Dragan Panjkov said:

Soma,

congratulations for new release!

If I install trial version of VS2008, will it be possible to convert it to full version without uninstalling?

# November 20, 2007 2:27 AM

Somasegar said:

Hi Sekhar,

Intentional Engineering is a terminology that we use internally to denote "think through your plans upfront, say what you are going to do and then do what you say".  It is sort of bread and butter in some sense but it also needs a lot of thoughtful execution in a large project like VS and .NET FX.

Emma Williams, who runs a lot of the engineering services teams in Developer Division at Microsoft did a channel 9 video recently where she talks about this some.

You can view this at:  http://channel9.msdn.com/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=339498

-somasegar

# November 20, 2007 2:52 AM

ISV blog-voer said:

ÉN TE DOWNLOADEN VIA MSDN! Vandaag maandag 19 November gaan Visual Studio 2008 en het .NET Framework

# November 20, 2007 3:08 AM

Do programmers dream in Byte Code? said:

Well Visual Studio 2008 has been released either a few days early ( the money was on thursday ) , or

# November 20, 2007 4:07 AM

Andrew Jackson said:

Congratulations and...

<ignore netiquette>

W00t!!!

</ignore netiquette>

# November 20, 2007 5:41 AM

Larry said:

Congrats.

But.

Why the hell do you have to use a non-resumable proprietary download hack? I get to 90% then it dies giving no option to resume. Smart buggers you guys are.

Also what is the fricken deal with MS and the 50 milllion editions of everything lately? What if I have, *gasp* multiple roles?

# November 20, 2007 6:58 AM

Ali Muslim said:

Also, have a look @ ==

   http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/vstudio/products/aa700831.aspx Have to wait for professional edition that we normally use.

Have a good day.

Ali Muslim

# November 20, 2007 8:00 AM

Shrike said:

My company (in Russia) has MSDN subscription.

We login on MSDN Subscriber zone. But there are not any releases of Visual Studio 2008 there! Only one file - "Visual Studio 2008 Readme.docx".

# November 20, 2007 9:12 AM

Craig Johnson said:

Meg,

Thanks for the reply.  Our experience is similar - we log in to our MSDN and only the VS 2008 Readme.docx document is available.

Do we have the wrong version of MSDN?

Thanks...Craig.

# November 20, 2007 11:43 AM

Amit Patankar said:

Shrike / Craig

The link is on the main page of MSDN Subcriptions

Check out Top Subscriber downloads.

Please make sure that popup blocker is turned off.

Enjoy.

# November 20, 2007 11:57 AM

Sekhar Sirigiri said:

Hi Soma,

  Thanks for the pointer to the Channel9 video on "Intentional Engineering". Sounds very interesting.

Regards

Sekhar

# November 20, 2007 11:59 AM

Heath Stewart's Blog said:

Microsoft Visual Studio 2008 , now available for MSDN subscribers and Express editions freely available

# November 20, 2007 12:07 PM

Shrike said:

2Amit Patankar :

Popup blocker is turned off.

We need Team Suite and TFS. But there are only their trials on the main page! Yes, I can see Std/Prof edition, but not Team Suite/TFS.

# November 20, 2007 12:17 PM

Getting Impatient said:

Though I have an extremely fast connection, I can get the Akamai Download Manager to download the VS2008 without the message:

“There’s a persistent network connectivity error preventing a problem with your connection to the Internet.”

Have you heard of this from others?

# November 20, 2007 12:37 PM

Noticias externas said:

Microsoft Visual Studio 2008 , now available for MSDN subscribers and Express editions freely available

# November 20, 2007 12:43 PM

Larry said:

“There’s a persistent network connectivity error preventing a problem with your connection to the Internet.”

Twice already.

Lama!

# November 20, 2007 12:59 PM

SvenC said:

Lama and Getting impatient,

do you have more than one network card? Check if only your internet attached card has a default gateway for its TCP/IP settings

Do you use a proxy to access the internet? Can you check to bypass the proxy?

# November 20, 2007 1:13 PM

Mike Strobel said:

Thank you, thank you, THANK YOU for releasing VSTS Team Explorer 2008 as a standalone download from TFS, and at the same time as the VS2008 release no less :).

# November 20, 2007 1:36 PM

Vincent Privat said:

What about localized versions availability ?

It was horribly long for VS 2005, even for the .NET framework redistrbuable itself !

I hope the main versions (German, French, Japanese) will be released this week...

# November 20, 2007 2:14 PM

John Bailey said:

I just download Visual Studio 2008 Professional from the subscriber site (Top Downloads section) and installed it, but the installation still says Beta 2.

Is this something I should be worried about?

# November 20, 2007 3:50 PM

Chris said:

Kudos to the VS Team! LINQ and its supporting features are a great new paradigm for development.

Shame on MSDN for using the Katamai Download Manager. After 5 times getting to 90+ percent mark it broke the connection. There is no resume capability. I'm not the only one.

At work I can't even connect because it doesn't like Proxy servers.

Their regular MSDN subscription download manager never gives a problem. Why go this route.

It's also quite embarrassing for Microsoft. The program UI looks like it came out of the late 1980's.  

Com'n guys, you have enough money and resources to do it right. I certainly paid enough for my Premium subscription, but apparently it doesn't do any good.

Chris

# November 20, 2007 6:01 PM

AbhiD said:

I am not against MS using Akamai's services for contents distribution. But that is affecting the overall experience.

I am still stuck on 31% and every time it just stay there and crashes. And there is no recovery

Someone PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE tell AKAMAI to just give an option to use PLAIN HTTP / FTP downloads.

# November 20, 2007 6:49 PM

Paulo Morgado said:

Visual Studio 2008 and .NET Framework 3.5 has finally shipped. MSDN subscribers can download the final

# November 20, 2007 7:22 PM

Somasegar said:

Hi Vincent,

Regarding the localization versions of VS2008 and .NET FX 3.5, here is the plan for when these versions will be done:

Japanese - 12/07

French, German - 1/08

Other languages - 2/08

-somasegar

# November 20, 2007 7:46 PM

Paulo Morgado said:

# November 20, 2007 8:01 PM

Paulo Morgado said:

O Visual Studio 2008 e a .NET Framework 3.5 foram finalmente lançados. Os subscritores MSDN podem descarregar

# November 20, 2007 8:02 PM

Dragan Panjkov said:

Soma,

If I install trial version of VS2008, will it be possible to convert it to full version without uninstalling?

# November 20, 2007 8:23 PM

Somasegar said:

Hi Dragan,

You don't have to uninstall the trial version.  When you insert the new DVD and the PID key, setup will recognize the installed bits and you will have the full version running.

-somasegar

# November 20, 2007 8:49 PM

Dragan Panjkov said:

Thanks.. so simply by starting setup and entering new key my trial will be converted to full?!

Excellent...

# November 20, 2007 9:23 PM

Carol said:

Earlier Dragan asked "If I install trial version of VS2008, will it be possible to convert it to full version without uninstalling?

And the answer is yes, you can do it one of two ways:

1.  You can get to VS Setup from ARP (add/remove programs) table.  Enter full PID – upgrade complete.  No DVD required in this case.

or

2.  You can launch setup from your new Retail DVD – if it’s the same VS edition, last option is to enter the full PID for upgrade.

Good luck,

Carol

# November 20, 2007 9:56 PM

Carol said:

Chris and others with Akamai download challenges - I apologize for problems you are having downloading from our facilitated download manager on MSDN (Akamai).  The traditional way should be online by tomorrow for you, if not already (depending on which SKU you are looking for).  

As we try different options to try and improve your experience, we sometimes run in to challenges given the breadth and size of our product.  We appreciate your feedback and will work to continue to improve your download experience.  

Thank you for your feedback and if you continue to have problems, please email me at cscott@microsoft.com.

Carol

# November 21, 2007 1:24 AM

Brian said:

Please post asap. I'm on my fifth download attempt. All other four faile, each time, same error, at 74%. These downloads are 6+ hours. There isn't anything special about our network. Never had problems downloading files of this size.

I'm not actually upset that it's being killed, that sometimes happens. What irks me is that we ALL KNOW VERY WELL that this sometimes happens. There isn't a download manager in the world (with the exception of this new Akamai POS) that won't allow you to continue to use your partially downloaded file.

Typically when people use new things, the new thing is better. The old way of downloading via msdn doesn't have problems.

# November 21, 2007 2:51 AM

Kamran shahid said:

Is it correct that VS2008 RTM version includes the Final version of .net compact framewor 3.5 ?

# November 21, 2007 5:04 AM

Hans-Joachim Kretzschmar said:

If one compares it with Visual Studio 2005: great!

But little comment: each simple computer software finds other required tools without intervention of user. But Visual Studio? If you not exactly fulfil all installation procedures you will find al lot of hints during compilation or linking. There is not found some kind of .lib or .h or so. Its boring and I think it would be no problem for programmers to change this and make life for us as users more delightful!

In concrete: I had to work about 2 days till full working STUDIO!

# November 21, 2007 5:58 AM

Larry said:

Ok, regarding download issues.

I tried downloading the team dev version twice, both failed (at 90% at 91% respectively).

I then tried the pro version and that one succeeded.

(I have no idea how Akamai actually deploys things. I'm guessing a set of geographically dispersed mirrors. Perhaps the team dev image is broken on the replica I get assigned to?)

# November 21, 2007 7:21 AM

Larry said:

Sigh, VS 2008 crashes when converting the Xerces solution file.

# November 21, 2007 1:40 PM

Larry said:

Doh! I meant ICU, sorry.

# November 21, 2007 1:41 PM

Vyacheslav Lanovets said:

When I installed VS2008 Beta2 I was surprised that its quality is much better than quality of VS2005 Beta2 was.

So I quickly extrapolated and decided that quality of VS2008 RTM is going to be very good.

Ha! It crashes in Find dialog, problems editing vsprops files, Ctrl+F12 hangs sometimes. And cl.exe often complains about unmodifiable vc90.pdb if I compile after I pressed Ctrl-Break when compiling with /MP on Intel Q6600 4GB and XP x64 . Restart does not help, pdb is corrupted and needs to be deleted.

Also Beta2 installation corrupted EVC 4.x PocketPC 2003 SDK and I am sure RTM does the same.

I carefully removed all Beta2 items pointed by ScottGu before RTM instalation. But I really hope that all problems above are because of Beta2 interference. Being MS evangelist at my work I am quite disappointed - I don't feel I can sell this c... to my colleagues.

# November 21, 2007 3:52 PM

Gaurav said:

Hey Soma,

I noticed that the Express editions all in one ISO is only VS2008ExpressENUX1397868.iso whereas when I mount it, select all files and see the size in Properties, it shows 2.68 GB. Obviously, the large files (MSDN Express library and the dependency components in WCU are all referenced just once but I see them in all folders! What is the magic here? Is it possible to store a single copy of commonly referenced files on a UDF CD/DVD/ISO image? I thought that requires symbolic links support for UDF. How come Windows (even XP!) supports symbolic links in UDF? What tool was used to create that ISO file?

# November 21, 2007 5:21 PM

自由、创新、研究、探索…… said:

今天登陆MSDN发现Visual Studio 2008英文正式版已经发布,MSDN订阅者已经可以下载.这次公布的Visual Studio 2008包括所有Team版本,方便开发人员为Windows Vista、Windows Server 2008、Office 2007、移动设备和网络开发最新应用程序.正式版本将在明年二月底发布

# November 21, 2007 6:31 PM

Mahjayar's WebLog. said:

Just like that the .Net train continues to move along to the next version of the framework. Microsoft

# November 21, 2007 9:20 PM

Maheshwar Jayaraman said:

.Net 3.5 and Visual Studio 2008 released

# November 21, 2007 9:27 PM

Noticias externas said:

Just like that the .Net train continues to move along to the next version of the framework. Microsoft

# November 21, 2007 9:30 PM

stevetei said:

Larry: I presume you're converting the Xerces C++ project from a previous VS version? Can you post a link to the project you're converting?

Vyacheslav: Please let us know what your experiences are with the final release of VS2008, as we did fix several bugs in the areas you mention between Beta2 and RTM.

Thanks!

Steve Teixeira

Group Program Manager, Visual C++

# November 21, 2007 11:49 PM

David Jacobson said:

The Visual Studio and .Net teams are succeeding.  But MSDN is letting you down.  There seems to be almost no documentation for the new .net 3.5 features in the MSDN library.  All the super documentation that has been available for LINQ in the past seems to have disappeared from MSDN.  I have much of it on my system.  But when I search for it with Google, search on MSDN, or look in the MSDN library shipped with VS2008 or online, I can't find any of it.

# November 22, 2007 12:25 PM

Larry said:

Steve, I'm sorry, but now I can't seem to reproduce the problem.

Here is the file I'm working with:

http://download.icu-project.org/files/icu4c/3.8/icu4c-3_8-src.tgz

MD5(icu4c-3_8-src.tgz)= 67cc2650fbcae4c8e3ba5ce4dda4b072

Here's what I saw earlier:

open allinone.sln

convert, no backup

vs exited with no warning/error before convert complete

*but* reopen solution, builds fine

# November 22, 2007 1:17 PM

someone said:

The Team Suite trial install took 50 mins on my Core 2 Duo out of which 20 mins was for SQL Server Express. Really, MS needs to find a solution to installing VS and patching VS and Vista. How does Office manage to install so fast?

# November 22, 2007 5:07 PM

Somasegar said:

Hi,

Several of you have asked me about when the VS 2008 Pro Edition will be available.

The Pro Edition will be available for download in the next week or so.  

The packaged VS Pro product will start showing up on retail store shelves in January.

-somasegar

# November 22, 2007 5:15 PM

Thomas said:

Quick update:

A patch will be applied on 11/22 (est 6PM PST) that should fix the issues with partial/failing dowloads.

VS08 Pro went live on the MSDN dowloads on 11/21, and it is available on the MSDN Subscription Home page as well for MSDN subscribers.

# November 22, 2007 7:29 PM

DoWhatJohn said:

"A patch will be applied on 11/22 (est 6PM PST) that should fix the issues with partial/failing dowloads."

Good news... but I've already used my months download quota trying to get this.

If only you guys had used MS File Transfer Manager I could have had it already (and several times over for the bandwidth and effort).  I wonder how much bandwidth Akamai has wasted with this wretched excuse for a downloader?  Who decided to use it?  If you press 'pause', it declares the file corrupt when you resume: and if you don't, it crashes at about 90-95% complete anyway.

# November 22, 2007 7:51 PM

From the software development trenches said:

Time for another weekly round-up of developer news that focuses on .NET, agile and general development

# November 23, 2007 12:06 AM

someone said:

Suppose I want to have Express editions and the Pro version side by side, why can't I have a common full MSDN for both?

# November 23, 2007 5:25 AM

Martin said:

Vs2008 professional crashes in Find dialog on x64 system.

Very bad!

Hope that a hotfix will be come fast!!!!!!!

# November 23, 2007 5:52 AM

Mike Diack said:

I agree. The akamai downloader is hopeless. I'm getting the same wretched "persistent network error" stuff that others are, when working behind our corporate proxy/firewall (whose settings I've no control over). Plus it looks like an ancient Win95 era applet. Please drop it and use something modern and reliable. It's hopeless. I've wasted 2-3 days now at msdn without downloading anything.

mike_diack@hotmail.com

# November 23, 2007 6:13 AM

Carol Grojean said:

Martin - can you please send me a personal email to cscott@microsoft.com as I would like to discuss your crash with you and see if we can help.

All the others regarding the Akamai download, again I apologize for your troubles.  As we try different options to try and improve your experience, we sometimes run in to challenges given the breadth and size of our product.  We appreciate your feedback and will work to continue to improve your download experience.

Carol

# November 23, 2007 4:38 PM

Thomas, MSDN Team said:

Hi Nick, we have recognized the variety of issues that need improvement ASAP, and your inputs have been great. We NEVER want our customers to be exposed to the system failures on any kind, but even with best of intentions, some issue creep up. We are working on the revision to the DLM 2.2.2.1 and trying to get the fixes in over the weekend. In the mean time, most critical downloads have been posted to MSDN's download service, so please download what you need from the MSDN Subscriber Downloads.

Based on your feedback, we are trying to implement the fixes to the following:

- DLM should download to Downloads by default

- the proxy issue that crashes the IE if proxy server is enabled but the address field is left empty

- Retry on downloads: we have seen that if your session expires (you lose your network connection because PC goes to sleep, for example, and your MSDN session expires) the downloads can’t be restored (we are looking in to this)

- DLM cannot be restarted if you close it and try again later (session issue again)

A new DLM will be coming soon, by the end on 11/07 at the latest, and we are trying to hurry it up as soon as possible.

We recognize the inconvenience this caused you and others who experience it.  Thanks for your patience and support. We are doing all we can to make sure this does not happen again.

Thomas

# November 23, 2007 6:22 PM

Thomas, MSDN team said:

Hi Nick, we have recognized the variety of issues that need improvement ASAP, and your inputs have been great. We NEVER want our customers to be exposed to the system failures on any kind, but even with best of intentions, some issue creep up. We are working on the revision to the DLM 2.2.2.1 and trying to get the fixes in over the weekend. In the mean time, most critical downloads have been posted to MSDN's download service, so please download what you need from the MSDN Subscriber Downloads.

Based on your feedback, we are trying to implement the fixes to the following:

- DLM should download to Downloads by default

- the proxy issue that crashes the IE if proxy server is enabled but the address field is left empty

- Retry on downloads: we have seen that if your session expires (you lose your network connection because PC goes to sleep, for example, and your MSDN session expires) the downloads can’t be restored (we are looking in to this)

- DLM cannot be restarted if you close it and try again later (session issue again)

A new DLM will be coming soon, by the end on 11/07 at the latest, and we are trying to hurry it up as soon as possible.

We recognize the inconvenience this caused you and others who experience it.  Thanks for your patience and support. We are doing all we can to make sure this does not happen again.

Thomas

# November 23, 2007 6:23 PM

Fduch said:

PLEASE!!! Include .Net Framework into upcoming Vista SP1/ XP SP3. PLEASE!!!

Why are you slowing down .Net adoption?

# November 25, 2007 10:37 PM

Amol said:

fantastic

# November 26, 2007 2:01 AM

Larry said:

Steve, just a quick update: I've had it happen twice now converting ICU (icu4c-3_8-src.tgz) and once converting Xerces (xerces-c-src_2_8_0.tar.gz). However I cannot make it happen on demand for the life of me. I don't see any event of watson log events. Because it seems to actually convert correctly, I can move on. Sorry I couldn't be of more help.

# November 26, 2007 7:19 AM

April Reagan said:

David Jacobson -

 I am sorry that you are experience issues with the documentation. Which search terms for LINQ and .NET 3.5 are you not getting results for now?  And you have searched at MSDN online as well as the local library ('offline' help)? Is the documentation also absent from the Table of Contents now?

April Reagan - AprilR@Microsoft.com

# November 26, 2007 2:29 PM

Heath Stewart's Blog said:

No doubt you've heard the Microsoft .NET Framework 3.5 was released . Aaron Stebner has posted a list

# November 26, 2007 6:36 PM

Noticias externas said:

No doubt you&#39;ve heard the Microsoft .NET Framework 3.5 was released . Aaron Stebner has posted a

# November 26, 2007 7:35 PM

Geeky Storytelling said:

Now that Thanksgiving is over, I have to pay attention again. Of course the biggest news is that Visual

# November 27, 2007 9:37 AM

Rodrigo Guerreiro said:

To LINQ or not to LINQ

# November 27, 2007 9:44 AM

Noticias externas said:

Last week Visual Studio 2008 was released to manufacturing . If you have a MSDN Subscription, you can

# November 27, 2007 1:53 PM

Brian Finnerty said:

Visual Studio 2008 Beta 2 is history and Microsoft actually hit its public milestone for the release-to-manufacturing (RTM) version.

Nice work from the Developer Tools division in Redmond and Soma must be grinning like a Cheshire cat! We've just announced full support for VS 2008 RTM at InnerWorkings, so there's plenty of good news to spread around these days...

# November 27, 2007 5:56 PM

arun vam said:

In VS2008 has anyone noticed any enhancements in custom user controls, hosting activex controls ..stability. Is there a VS controls  dev teamblog ?

# November 29, 2007 11:51 AM

Rob Warfel said:

When will VS2008 MSDN distribution happen?

# November 30, 2007 1:14 PM

Carol Grojean said:

Hi Rob, if you are looking for MSDN library on public downloads you can find it here:

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=6FF3BC60-32C8-4C22-8591-A20BF8DFF1A2&displaylang=en

Thank you,

Carol

# December 4, 2007 10:13 PM

Carol Grojean said:

Hi Rob, if you are looking for MSDN library on public downloads you can find it here (and we will work to make it more discoverable so thank you for your question!):

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=6FF3BC60-32C8-4C22-8591-A20BF8DFF1A2&displaylang=en

Thank you,

Carol

# December 4, 2007 10:14 PM

Colby Africa said:

VS 2008 RTM is presenting the "configuring environment for first use" dialog on every start up.  Is there something I can do to prevent this?

# December 5, 2007 10:58 AM

Ken Watson (MSFT) said:

Hi Colby - the dialog you see should only appear the first time you run Visual Studio. Perhaps some of the settings that get written during that process aren't persisting for some reason. Can you try:

1) devenv.exe /resetsettings

If this doesn't help, then try:

2) devenv.exe /setup (on Vista you'll need elevated permissions - from the start menu, right click on the "Command Prompt" shortcut and select "Run as Administrator")

Finally if that hasn't fixed it, please log an issue on the Microsoft Connect site and we'll work with you to investigate the issue further:

3) http://connect.microsoft.com/visualstudio then Sign In (top-right corner of page) with your Windows Live ID (hotmail/passport account); then click the "Submit a Bug or Suggestion" link; then click the green "submit feedback" button and follow the process.

thanks, Ken

# December 5, 2007 2:05 PM

Colby Africa said:

Thanks Ken.  

Neither solution helped.  I found a bug on Connect (ID = 107501) that has been closed but it is the exact same situation, including the use of roaming profiles.

I don't want to create a dup.  Is there a way you can reopen that existing bug?

Thanks.

Colby

# December 5, 2007 3:03 PM

David Broman's CLR Profiling API Blog said:

With the recent release of the Microsoft .NET Framework 3.5, not to mention prior versions like Microsoft

# December 6, 2007 12:47 PM

Noticias externas said:

With the recent release of the Microsoft .NET Framework 3.5, not to mention prior versions like Microsoft

# December 6, 2007 12:51 PM

nongang said:

Wow! Great !!!!

thank you a lot

# December 9, 2007 3:18 AM

IT Technology Update said:

Visual Studio 2008 and .NET Framework 3.5 shipped!

# December 15, 2007 5:38 AM

yino said:

i am chinnese ,Visual Studio 2008 and .NET Framework 3.5 shipped!

# December 16, 2007 10:15 PM

Data Tools and Software Testing said:

Sure - it's a little late in coming, but still feels good to say that Visual Studio 2008 has shipped

# December 17, 2007 7:31 PM

Noticias externas said:

Sure - it&#39;s a little late in coming, but still feels good to say that Visual Studio 2008 has shipped

# December 17, 2007 8:22 PM

Developer Blogs said:

It&#39;s my pleasure to tell you we shipped VS2008 and .NET FX 3.5 today. Soma has all the details on

# December 21, 2007 10:44 AM

ASPInsiders said:

First, if you didn't hear the news yet, Visual Studio 2008 and .NET 3.5 has shipped! Read Soma's post

# December 21, 2007 4:57 PM

ASPInsiders said:

I've been pushing hard on using VS2008 with CRM 4 (Titan), and I'm more than happy to see it RTM. I have

# December 21, 2007 4:57 PM

Developer Blogs said:

Visual Studio 2008 and the .NET Framework 3.5 (and the .NET Compact Framework 3.5) has shipped - more

# December 26, 2007 11:33 AM

Redwerb said:

Visual Studio 2008 and .NET Framework 3.5 shipped!

# December 27, 2007 1:44 PM

Ray said:

Is there anyway to download this VS2008ExpressENUX1397868.iso where it doesn't transfer slower than a dialup connection from the south pole in summer during a thunderstorm??

You'd think MSFT could afford to spend a little interest on making sure people could actually pull files from their site as if it were a real site..

# December 28, 2007 11:24 PM

Golf Course Update said:

2007 was another great year for software. Here are a few software releases that caught my eye and imagination

# December 30, 2007 7:16 PM

Redwerb said:

2007 was another great year for software. Here are a few software releases that caught my eye and imagination

# December 30, 2007 7:18 PM

JScript Blog said:

Now Visual Studio 2008 code named Orcas is out of door with incredible features. T he most highly anticipated

# December 31, 2007 2:35 AM

Rohit said:

Hi Soma,

When would the retail packages be available in India

# January 4, 2008 12:48 PM

Mark Gordon said:

HERE IS A CHALLENGE USE VISUAL FOXPRO FOR A BIT THEN GO BACK AND USE .BLOAT AND SEE HOW MUCH EXTRA CODE YOU HAVE TO WRITE TO BUILD A SIMPLE DATABASE APPLICATION. THIS .NET STUFF TRULY IS A PIECE OF CRAP!

YOU ALL NEED TO FINISH ONE PRODUCT BEFORE PUTTING OUT MORE SOFTWARE THAT FREAKING DOES NOT WORK.

CASE AND POINT

1) NO DEBUGGER IN SQL SERVER... PERHAPS WITH A LOT OF LUCK AND SOME TRICKY SETUP MAYBE YOU CAN DEBUG YOUR SP'S IN .CRAP

2) WITH REFLECTION IN C# THERE IS NO WAY TO TRULY

HIDE CLASS CODE.

3) CREATE A STORED PROCEDURE THAT NEEDS TO BE CALLED FOR EACH ROW IN A TABLE WHERE THE FIELDS ARE PASSED IN AS PARAMETERS FROM A RECORD.... OF COURSE SOMETHING HELPFUL LIKE

 EXEC MYSP (SELECT FIELD1, FIELD2 FROM MYTABLE) DOES NOT WORK THAT WOULD MAKE TOO MUCH FREAKING SENSE ... INSTEAD YOU HAVE TO DECLARE A FREAKING CURSOR AND "FETCH WHILE" WHAT A FING JOKE. BESIDES IT PERFORMS LIKE CRAP....

4) LINQ YOU ARE PUTTING SKIP RECORD SUPPORT IN  HAHAHA THAT HAS BEEN IN FOXPRO SINCE DOS ...

5) .JUNK DOESN'T EVEN FOLLOW OOP STANDARDS IF YOU DROP A CONTROL ON A WEBFORM .JUNK PUTS THE BUSINESS LOGIC IN THE CODE BEHIND, GREAT DESIGN.... OR CREATE A DATA READER IN A MIDDLE TIER AND PASS IT TO THE UI GUESS WHAT THE UI HAS TO CLOSE AN OBJECT IT DIDN'T CREATE, THE DATA READER OBJECT. SO SINCE YOU TOTALLY JACKED N-TIER PROGRAMMING IN .JUNK NOW YOU ARE WORKING ON VOLT TO TRY AND STRAIGHTEN OUT THE MESS .JUNK CREATES ... THANKS ALOT ... HERE IS A THOUGHT DO IT RIGHT THE FIRST TIME.

6) FUNCTIONS IN SQL SERVER ARE A COOL CONCEPT OF COURSE DOING ANY SERIOUS DATA MANIPULATION IN THEM DOESN'T WORK BECAUSE THEY PERFORM LIKE CRAP. SO YOU END WITH DUPLICATE CODE IN YOUR SP'S ... ANOTHER FEATURE NEVER FINISHED THAT MIGHT ACTUALLY HELP DEVELOPERS.

7) ABSOLUTE POSITIONING IN VS2008 LOOKS GREAT ON PAPER UNTIL YOU FREAKING USE IT ONLY TO FIND OUT THE PAGE .BLOAT CREATES RENDER LIKE CRAP IN BROWSERS OTHER THEN I.E. SO BACK TO USING TABLES.

8) GRIDVIEW CONTROL IN .BLOAT, THAT IS A CODE GENERATOR WIZARD. THE GRID IS NOT EVEN OBJECT ORIENTED. CHECK OUT THE VFP GRID CONTROL AND LOOK AT .CRAPS VERSION. YOU WILL NOTICE IN VFP THE COLUMNS ARE OBJECTS WITH A COLUMNS COLLECTION THEN CONTROLS IN THE COLUMNS... . THAT MAKES SENSE !!!!!

9) THE CLASS DESIGNER IN .JUNK ... SHARP INTERFACE TO BAD FUNCTIONAL IT DOES FAR LESS THEN THE VISUALLY UGLY VFP CLASS BROWSER THAT WORKED AND ACTUALLY HELPED DEVELOPERS DO THEIR JOB DID....

YOU TOOK THE ONLY DATABASE LANGUAGE MSFT HAD THAT WORKED VFP (PROBABLY BECAUSE MSFT DIDN'T INITIALLY DEVELOP IT)  AND KILLED IT THEN FORCED US INTO .CRAP ... PEOPLE MAKE THEIR LIVING WRITING DATABASE APPLICATIONS STOP SCREWING OFF WITH SHIT LIKE SILVER LIGHT AND BUILD SOME TRUE DATA CENTRIC DEVELOPMENT TOOLS OR BETTER YET ADD A REAL DATA CENTRIC LANGUAGE TO .CRAP ... HERE IS A THOUGHT BRING BACK VFP.... YOU CANT DO THAT THEN NO ONE WOULD WANT TO USE .BLOAT . .....  DAMN YOU GUYS AT MICROSOFT ARE FREAKING CLUELESS ...... MONOPOLIES SUCK!

THEY REST OF YA'LL KEEP ON BEING CHEERLEADERS FOR MICROSOFT AND TELL THEM JUST HOW GREAT THEIR PRODUCTS ARE INSTEAD OF CALLING A SPADE A SPADE...

MSFT HAS NO NEED TO DEVELOP SOFTWARE THAT ACTUALLY WORKS AND COULD HELP US DO OUR JOB BETTER AS LONG AS THE MAJORITY OF DEVELOPERS JUST GO WITH THE FLOW AND ARE HAPPY WRITING HUNDREDS OF LINES OF CODE WE SHOULD NOT HAVE TOO AND KEEP WORKING AROUND MSFT'S BUGS.

OH BY THE WAY WHY DIDN'T THE MVC FRAMEWORK SHIP WITH VS 2008... JUST WHAT WE NEEDED ANOTHER PROGRAMMING PARADIGM FOR .BLOAT ... GUESS YOU HAVE TO KEEP UP WITH RUBY....

IF I WAS BILL GATES I WOULD FIRE ALL OF YOU !!!!!!!!!

# January 8, 2008 1:48 AM

Mark Gordon said:

NO SOMA, IT IS NOT THAT I DONT WANT TO LEARN ANOTHER PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE (LIKE YOU IMPLIED IN AN INTERVIEW) THAT I AM A VFP SUPPORTER .... IT IS BECAUSE I MAKE MY LIVING WRITING DATABASE APPLICATIONS AND FOR THE LAST 2 YEARS I BEEN MOVING TO .CRAP AND FOR THE PAST 6 MONTHS I STRICTLY USE .CRAP AND I KNOW FRIST HAND JUST HOW FAR BEHIND THIS PACKAGE IS COMPARED TO VFP... I WATCHED MY PRODUCTIVITY DROP OFF, LINES OF CODE INCREASE ALONG WITH THE COST OF THE PROJECTS...THE SUPPORT OVERHEAD IS HIGHER AND SO IS THE HARDWARE REQUIREMENTS ... AND AT THE END OF THE DAY THERE IS ZERO BENEFIT TO MYSELF AS A DEVELOPER OR MY CUSTOMERS FROM USING .CRAP COMPARED TO VFP ......

ANY DAY OF THE WEEK I WILL SIT DOWN WITH YOU AND WE CAN WRITE AN APPLICATION IN .CRAP THEN IN VFP AND I WILL BET AT THE END OF THE DAY VFP WILL HAVE FEWER LINES OF CODE, THE APP WILL BE GET DONE QUICKER AND OUT PERFORM A .NET / SQL SERVER SOLUTION.

I'M NOT EVEN IN THE SAME PROGRAMMING LEAGUE OF SOMEONE LIKE CALVIN HSIA AS MSFT JUST SIT WITH HIM AND PERFORM THE SAME TEST ... I WILL BET PAYCHECKS HE COULD MAKE VFP PERFORM CIRCLES AROUND .NET ....

MSFT NEEDED TO PROVIDE AN ALTERNATIVE BEFORE KILLING FOXPRO INSTEAD WHAT YOU GAVE US WAS A HUGE STEP BACKWARDS IN THIS .NET WORLD FOR DATABASE APPLICATIONS DEVELOPMENT .... .NET REALLY IS A MESS OF AN APPLICATION FOR SOMEONE TRYING TO BUILD A DATABASE APPLICATION . . . . DONT GET ME WRONG THERE ARE A LOT OF GOOD IDEAS, IF THEY WHERE FULLY IMPLEMENTED BURIED IN THE PACKAGE. BUT IT TRUELY SUCKS FOR DESKTOP DATABASE APPLICATION DEVELOPMENT IT IS CURRENT STATE HANDS DOWN IT IS FAR FAR FAR INFERIOR THEN VFP .... AND IT PISSES ME OFF TO NO END THAT MSFT IS WASTING TIME WORKING ON PROJECTS LIKE SILVER LIGHT AND EXPRESSION WHEN WE DO NOT EVEN HAVE TOOLS TO MAKE ACCESSING DATA EASY....

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME...

BEST REGARDS,

MARK

# January 8, 2008 2:15 AM

Jayakumar, Bangalore, India said:

Dear Mr. Somasekar,

This is Jayakumar from Bangalore. How are you doing and how is your family? Any trip to Bangalore.

Infact, we have been doing MS WM training including the latest version to Software firms in India like Motorola, CSC, E4E, LG SOFT, Virtusa to name few with the support of Sr.Practising professionals support from the Industry. All the trainings underwent high level of customisation meeting clients demands.

Wish to understand whether any chance we can (Amstar Technologies, Bangalore)  alliance with MS to start aggressively pushing the training with your support in India reagion to start with. We do have our own branches in major IT cities in India and we work through business partners for International training business.

Pls. let me know. You can reach me at: training@amstartechnologies.co.in

Tel: 9880660585

Jayakumar

Bangalore.

# January 12, 2008 12:42 AM

dentria said:

VSS 2005 for VS 2008

# January 20, 2008 7:48 PM

Jim said:

I am not thrilled about the .NET FW 3.5. I think wrong technologies are being pushed and right technologies are being pressed.

I do not see innvoative and machine critical application can be built without the flexibility in the language and using garbage collectors.

You dont want to focus just developers productivity who builds normal applicatins.

thanks

Mike

# January 23, 2008 12:16 AM

ASP.NET Debugging said:

So the next version of Visual Studio is getting ready to release (it is actually already available for

# January 23, 2008 3:01 PM

Noticias externas said:

So the next version of Visual Studio is getting ready to release (it is actually already available for

# January 23, 2008 3:52 PM

Jim said:

Hardware capabilities are growing faster than ever. So software should be able to take the advantage of multi-dual core processsors to build GREAT applications. Otherwise you will be out of the market very soon!

PS: I use two different names :)

Mike

# January 24, 2008 12:23 AM

ADO.NET team blog said:

LINQ to SQL went gold a few months ago with the release of Visual Studio 2008 and .NET Framework 3.5.

# February 21, 2008 2:29 PM

Noticias externas said:

LINQ to SQL went gold a few months ago with the release of Visual Studio 2008 and .NET Framework 3.5

# February 21, 2008 3:20 PM

Chuki said:

So there won't be VS2005 SP2. Now we have to buy on. A new version every 2 years. Sounds a nice business for MS. But how can I trust a new version when de previous version does not work fine.

Do you remerber VB6 SP6, SP6!!!

Visual Studio 2005 is slow. How runs VS2008?. Is it faster?

Cheers

# February 25, 2008 12:21 PM

DimitriC said:

Somasegar&#39;s blog reports: I am thrilled to announce that earlier today we shipped Visual Studio 2008

# March 31, 2008 12:26 PM

designer x said:

Congrats to the team, is this going to ship to New Zealand?

# May 27, 2008 8:29 PM

jurpo said:

hi,

what's different between Visual Studio 2005 vs Visual Studio 2008

thx

# June 20, 2008 2:38 AM

MegP_MS said:

Hi Jurpo -

Here is a link to what is new in Visual Studio 2008:  http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb386063.aspx

and here is a whitepaper that talks about this as well:  http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=17319eb4-299c-43b8-a360-a1c2bd6a421b&displaylang=en

# June 20, 2008 12:20 PM

Gulab said:

Hi All,

I just want to know if we ship framework 3.5 as a prerequisite along with our assemblies, is it necessary to ship framework 2.0 also. According to what I have understood, framework 3.5 is built over framework  2.0 adding new assemblies for functions like WCF,WPF.

Please let me know if this is not a correct blog to post this message on.

Thanks & Regards,

Gulab.

# July 9, 2008 3:31 AM

Somasegar said:

Hi Gulab,

.NET FX 3.5 package does include .NET FX 2.0 and .NET FX 3.0 packages.  So, if you re-distribute .NET FX 3.5 you don't need to include .NET FX 2.0 or 3.0 as it is automatically included in .NET FX 3.5.

-somasegar

# July 18, 2008 10:28 PM

Visual Studio 2008 Guy said:

Love it or hate it beats the hell out of MFC what a nightmare that was :(

# August 5, 2008 7:01 PM

Karthik.M said:

Visual Studio 2008 is the Best

# October 7, 2008 3:26 AM

Sam Gentile's Blog said:

I knew it was coming so I stayed up extra late last night but not long enough :) Visual Studio 2008 Team Suite with the .NET Framework 3.5 is available on MSDN Subscriber Downloads ! See Soma's post here . While my copy is on the way, I would like to

# December 2, 2008 7:12 PM
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