World's youngest MCP (Microsoft Certified Professional)

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Anonymous — Thu, 14 Jul 2005 09:17:29 GMT

When opening article from http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/features/2005/may05/05-02YoungMCP.mspx, it is deleted.

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Adnan — Thu, 14 Jul 2005 09:27:26 GMT

Hello

would you like to share things you discussed with this young lady,I as a Pakistani definately feel proud on this girl,this girl is just another example of talent present in subcontinent,less resource,not good education infrastructure and still doing best in their respective fields

I wonder if we people are provided facilities like given to US or other countries,we won`t take time to be on top

regards

-adnan

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Somasegar — Thu, 14 Jul 2005 10:49:33 GMT

Hi Adnan,

In general we talked about

a) what prompted her to get excited about technology and computers at such a young age - her dad bought a computer mainly for email purposes that she started using. In addition there were a couple of senior students in her school who apparently noticed her interest and took her under their wings and spent time encouraging him and guiding her along the way.

b) what she wants to do as she grows up - she would love to study at Harvard, work in a company like Microsoft and go back to Pakistan to do technology innovations in the field of satellite engineering.

c) she articulated some of her ideas about how auto-nagivation of automobiles is possible, how we need to strive to have equal numbers of women in high technology engineering, etc.

All in all, a very interesting conversation and sometimes you forget that you are talking to a 9-year old girl given the depth of the conversation and the breadth of things that she is aware of.

- somasegar

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Basharat Ali Sheikh — Fri, 15 Jul 2005 05:22:13 GMT

I am so proud of this little genius that I printed out this article from Microsoft Pakistan’s website and put it on outside my cubicle, so everyone in my office can know about her achievement.

Just curious that which paper she passed to become an MCP?

Arfa is really an encouragement and initiation for all of us, my daughter is only 3 yet, I wish she breake this record :)

Anonymous: You can get this article at Microsoft Pakistan’s url: -
http://www.microsoft.com/middleeast/pakistan/Communities/arfakarim.aspx

Regards

Basharat Ali Sheikh
Toronto - Canada.

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nsnboy — Fri, 15 Jul 2005 09:28:50 GMT

really? What a clever Girl!

Code jock

Sepia Mutiny — Fri, 15 Jul 2005 20:02:02 GMT

Faisalabad, Pakistan,&nbsp;the ancestral home of one of the London bombers, has a happier event to be remembered by. Meet Arfa Karim, a 10-year-old from that city who at age nine became the youngest person ever to&nbsp;pass a Microsoft certification exam in programming (via Slashdot): Sitting down for a personal meeting with Bill Gates this week, 10-year-old Arfa Karim Randhawa asked the Microsoft founder why the company doesn&#8217;t hire people her age&#8230; She has created basic Windows applications, such as a calculator and a sorting program, primarily in the C# programming language&#8230; The institute instructors assumed it would take Arfa about a year to go through the process of certification for developing Windows applications. But after four months&#8230; she passed the required exams&#8230;. &#8220;I saw her doing something extraordinary, making presentations,&#8221; said her father, Amjad Karim, who serves with a U.N. peacekeeping force in Africa and came with his daughter to Microsoft this week&#8230; he first noticed something unusual when she started displaying a remarkable memory, perhaps photographic, at a young age&#8230; Later in the afternoon, she sat outside with S. &#8220;Soma&#8221; Somasegar, a Microsoft corporate vice president, and described her vision for a self-navigating car. He listened to her ideas and told her about some of Microsoft&#8217;s existing software for cars. [Link] Karim wants to be a satellite engineer or a software developer. But she has stiff competition in Mridul Seth&nbsp;of Bangalore, who at age eight became the youngest to pass the Microsoft system admin exam. Somasegar blogged their meeting here. Related post here....

More on Arfa...

Somasegar's WebLog — Fri, 15 Jul 2005 21:50:05 GMT

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I blogged the other day about Arfa, who became a MCP when she was just 9 years old.
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more about Arfa

Adnan Siddiqi — Fri, 15 Jul 2005 23:34:18 GMT

I have been reading about Arfa`s these days,whether its on Slashdot&nbsp;or on MS blogs. i got an online...

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prakash — Sat, 16 Jul 2005 08:18:25 GMT

hats off to the girl.,

Now a days., ppl at very little age has proved something unusual and itz quite surprising us.

In India,(Tamil nadu), a boy has achieved similar milestones. read on

www.akce.ac.in/chandrasekar.html

http://www.hinduonnet.com/thehindu/2002/10/29/stories/2002102902090500.htm

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anonymous — Mon, 18 Jul 2005 02:58:35 GMT

three cheers for arfa karim .... amazing achievement ~!~!

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anonymous — Mon, 18 Jul 2005 05:49:54 GMT

Good to know that there are still some sensible pakistanis left who divert their energy into creative pursuits instead of crossing over into India and wreaking havoc !

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Anonymous — Mon, 18 Jul 2005 05:54:18 GMT

And why is it that Microsoft did not invite Chandrasekar, the 9 year old who became a MCP in '99 to Redmond ? (Source : http://www.hinduonnet.com/thehindu/2002/10/29/stories/2002102902090500.htm )

Was this girl invited because she's a Paki ?

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Anonymous — Mon, 18 Jul 2005 16:41:21 GMT

As far as Chandrasekar is concerned, you should point it to concerned official at Microsoft. But it doesn't give you a right to use bad names for a country. Try to do achieve something yourself instead of shedding your frustrations here.

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PakiHater — Mon, 18 Jul 2005 17:22:51 GMT

Hey Paki .... Crawl back to your country !

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Zeeshan — Tue, 19 Jul 2005 03:59:47 GMT

Hi Indian,
Usually world media doesn't take serious these stories from india.Bcz i was amazed to see a news item in which a guy from india claimed to have won a competetion exam of NASA.This guy was promoted as a hero in the whole world until NASA people had to explain in a press conference that there is no such exam existing.I hope in this case Chandrasekar is either not existing or not recognized by microsoft as a MCP because he might have been caught cheating....?
Hey indi...mindi...Your country have even borrowed its name from Indus river of Pakistan.You are indian because of Pakistan.RESPECT....us.

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Kiruthik Nandha Kumar — Tue, 19 Jul 2005 05:36:32 GMT

Hello Zeeshan,

Mind your words. We are here to talk about the small girl, not about our country related issues, and moreover, Whole of US people knows about Pakistanis as well as Indians. They know whom are better..... It is not necessary for me to say those things...

Think about the past... India exist from the past, when Map was drawn. How about Pakistan ?? We gave a small part of us... Always think about the past....... :) I hope pakistan still have more than40 yrs to celebrate its 100 year anniversary.

Never talk like this, I came here in a mood of appreciating the girl.... But you spoiled my mood.....

Still, people are ridiculous

kiruthik's blog on .net, longhorn, linux, etc., — Tue, 19 Jul 2005 06:03:34 GMT

Still, people are ridiculous

kiruthik's blog on .net, longhorn, linux, etc., — Tue, 19 Jul 2005 06:03:34 GMT

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Zeeshan — Tue, 19 Jul 2005 06:34:29 GMT

Hi Kiruthik Nandha Kumar,
I understand your views and know why you retaliated on this issue of Pakistan and india.But as a matter of fact no one was responding to this guy who was disgracing pakistan and this girl's efforts.I hope you understand this..i am talking about PakiHater and some anonymous writers.These guys are ashamed enough to hide their identity.I am sorry but i was a bit angry.Me too came to appreciate this girls efforts.But what i saw was ridiculous remarks from these nameless and shameless people.These guys can't even appreciate a human being..I am sorry i hope i am not getting serious enough.But i appreciate your comments.I know we are brothers ...but note these guys' comments too dear.
Hope you understand me.
Zeeshan

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Kiruthik — Tue, 19 Jul 2005 12:49:48 GMT

Hi Zee,

Sorry if that hurts you in anyway... let us not fight anymore :) by the way i work in madras for a s/w concern, how abt u ? my mail id is mail<at>kiruthik<dot>com

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Mihir Solanki — Tue, 19 Jul 2005 17:04:32 GMT

Well done you little genius ... Welcome to TechWorld.

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akshay — Wed, 20 Jul 2005 08:18:43 GMT

Its cool to see the age of software professionals have reduced to such an extent :) Congratulations Arfa and Thanks to soma for the encouragement he gave to her.

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Asif Malik — Wed, 20 Jul 2005 16:09:06 GMT

I'll pray for young Arfa that Almighty Allah, give her all the success in her present and future plans. We all are prouf of her. I would like to request parents and gaurdians, to discover the guts of their spouse's in early stages and help htem to prove their abilities.
regards

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Najam Iqbal — Wed, 20 Jul 2005 17:17:34 GMT

I am so proud of her. She is a role model not only for kids in Pakistan but also all over the world for adults.
Nothing is impossible to achieve as long as you are willing to get it and have mind set.
Good Luck Arfa. You are a great asset to Pakistan, wish you all the best for your future endeavor

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MS is BIASED ! — Wed, 20 Jul 2005 18:33:43 GMT

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Suhail Yusuf — Thu, 21 Jul 2005 18:13:19 GMT

Great it is honour for Pakistan and muslims of the world.
Dear friend Somasegar can you please guide me from where can i found her foto talking with Mr Bill gates.
I search so many sites but failed to do so.

suhail yusuf
Pakistan

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Khan from PAKISTAN — Thu, 21 Jul 2005 19:40:35 GMT

Programing at 9, i can't do it at 23 heheheheh...
coool not bad.
This clearly shows Pakistan has some great talent...
Great Pakistanis you have done it again....

:) keep it up :)

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Somasegar — Fri, 22 Jul 2005 07:06:07 GMT

Sorry Suhail. I don't have any pictures of Arfa talking to Bill.

- somasegar

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Nat — Fri, 22 Jul 2005 22:01:47 GMT

Im sort of curious though, doesnt it make you feel kind of stupid that microsoft stuff is simple that a 9 year old could learn it? I mean, im 17 and i beleive i could pass the certification test with alittle studying. So shouldnt it make you feel that micosoft certification is useless?

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M. A. Naveed — Mon, 25 Jul 2005 16:01:15 GMT

I've got a chance to meet this intelligent kid Arfa in Pakistan Developer Conference 05. She was invited as an special guest ova there. She is really a brilliant, sharp and intelligent and confident enough. At this age of nine this younger girl has extra ordinary God gifted qualities thats really an honour for her parents and as well as for Pakistan. May Allah increase her knowledge and wisdom in the benefit of prosperity of mankind.

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Optional — Mon, 25 Jul 2005 17:34:18 GMT

Gratz to the wiz kid. Im curious as to which test was taken to achieve her MCP.

Im all for help kids achieve but what happened to being a kid? At 9yrs old there should be plenty of other things to do besides cert study. I would suggest that as a reward, MS send her a playground set.

Plenty of time to worry about career paths once she hits her mid-teens. As a parent, I would have directed my child more towards maths and sciences with the goal of teaching broad concepts of the world that are the same for all of us. She clearly has the desire to figure things out so start with Newton and go from there.

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Anon — Mon, 25 Jul 2005 17:34:41 GMT

What a fantastic achivement, who would have thought that in around 30 years of mainstream computers become so easy to use that a girl of 8 would pass an MCP.

I was programing BASIC by age 6 that i taught myself from a book from the library and ported a simple program written for a psion (somthing), Using my Sinclaire ZX spectrum 128K with built-in tape drive. Wheres my praise?

20 now still no-one cares.

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Paul Schnitzler — Mon, 25 Jul 2005 17:46:47 GMT

As were most of your respondents, I was very impressed with Arfa Karim, and I congratulate her.

I am equally disturbed by the poor use of English by some who seem to be US-born. I recognize that English is a difficult language and admire those not born to it who now use it well, if not perfectly. However, when a US-born person cannot spell correctly, doesn't know how to use punctuation and capitalization, and has some difficulty with simple declarative sentences, I suggest that he or she spend some time learning English before going after the MCP.

BTW, I would think that an MCP hopeful would use the spell and grammar checker in Word. It, too, is not perfect but it would catch many errors.

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Lawrence Olivier — Mon, 25 Jul 2005 17:54:27 GMT

10 Print "Still using BASIC at 20?"

World's youngest MCP (Microsoft Certified Professional)

Arun011 — Mon, 25 Jul 2005 18:33:26 GMT

Hi I also became a MCSE, MCSA, MCP (2000 track) at the age of 14. I passed my last exam 70-220 on sep 11, 2004. I have also setup a Securty portal http://hackingtruths.org which is currently under Development. Currently I am thinking of opting for CEH from ec-council. Wish me best of luck.

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anonymous — Mon, 25 Jul 2005 21:44:39 GMT

I think that is great, but I wonder about the pressure put on by her parents.

I would rather read an article about a child that played outside with friends rather then have parents that may have put pressure on her to acheive this. I know what it is like to have pressure of parents to succeed and I wish I had known back then to step back and smell the roses (have fun in my childhood and not try to grow up so quickly).

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anonymous — Mon, 25 Jul 2005 21:45:15 GMT

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Noor — Mon, 25 Jul 2005 23:25:51 GMT

It's great.. a 9 year old gettin microsoft certification..

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Kamran — Wed, 27 Jul 2005 00:55:35 GMT

congrats to the 9 yr old.. no matter how easy that certification is...for a 9 yr old it is too big!

adding to that, may i request the 'hating' people of both india and pak to be calm and cool.. and learn a lesson from the person who made this post; (s)he is an indian (looks so from namastey in the end :)) and he still praises a paki child.. this is the openness we need among the masses...

i hear that indians and pakistanis are almost like 'one' in places like USA ans UK... i hope we have peace soon here... tata.. bye.. nice post.. tc ;)

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Tat — Wed, 27 Jul 2005 09:20:43 GMT

I am ashamed for some people here who tried to spoil this thread by nasty comments. But hey, the girl is still happy and I am happy for her, regardless (but what is it that you have achieved, besides being miserable in your hatred?) Amen.

I would also add that I am least concerned that the parents are being hard on her or whether she has enough of child play. That's her life and she will have enough integrity and self worth for what she achieved and yet to achieve. To each its own.

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US Born — Wed, 03 Aug 2005 15:35:35 GMT

Paul, That was a "Run On" sentence.

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Sohail Ahmed — Thu, 04 Aug 2005 22:49:26 GMT

I have taught arfa about 5 months, and she was very impressive during her MCP Prepration, I m very proud of her.

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Raj — Sat, 06 Aug 2005 19:36:35 GMT

Dear Mr. Somasegar,

Well its really a great achivement but why dont microsoft take another exam of arfa karim for the same (which was she has passed?) 70-270 or any other please give it a shot. things will be well cleared. one more question how about mrudul seth i heard that he was eight year when he got MCP credentials?

anyways if you like please give me details.

Namaste!

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Sohail Ahmed — Sun, 07 Aug 2005 04:12:15 GMT

Dear Raj,
For your kind information, Microsoft has already taken her another exam after she got certified.

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Saikat Choudhuri, India — Sun, 07 Aug 2005 09:45:00 GMT

Hats off to Arfa - the little genious. Dear friends please honour and her due respect to her amazing feat. It would be better to encourage her rather than showing our black and green minds to her. Please stop these hate messages as it acheives nothing but bring out our weird mentalities.

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TapasDeb,India — Sun, 07 Aug 2005 09:57:05 GMT

Hats off to the kid.And to all the educated people here,don't indulge yourselves in fanaticism.Just appreciate the achievement,afterall we all are human beings!Thanks for the postings.

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Momina — Sat, 23 Feb 2008 18:21:55 GMT

im jalous abt dis lil gal..i jst heard abt her 2day lol..aftr more than 2 years..she was givin an interview on fm 100...bt annyway im happy 2 no shez pakistani..now sumbudy else broke her record..dat bilal guy..anyways gals still rock more..n wassup wid dat pakih8er guy??dusnt he no these days paki chicks r so hot..

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EvernewSMS.com — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 11:24:38 GMT

She inspired me and in the past i want to do MCSE and few other certificates but now my plan has been changed due to MCSE high fee for per subject if i will take 7 exams then it will cost me almost 350$

which i can't afford. Mircsoft should offer low fee for exams. (3rd world country student can't affored 350$ for just one exam)

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khalid mahmood — Tue, 29 Apr 2008 22:57:57 GMT

i am khalid from pakistan, i did mcse 2008,mcse securtiy,mcpd 2.5,mcitp vista.

so what about me and l am in the age of 19.

my mail

khan0070@yahoo.com

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MUKESH JAT — Fri, 16 May 2008 03:53:52 GMT

I AM YOUNGEST MCP CERTIFIED IN INDIA.

FROM HINT INSTITUTE ,UDAIPUR,RAJASTHAN WITH 84% ON 15/05/2008.

mukesh_jat53@hotmail.com

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MUKESH JAT — Sun, 01 Jun 2008 13:42:37 GMT

I am Mukesh Jat from INDIA,UDAIPUR, i did MCP 2008,mcp WINDOWS XP

so what about me and l am in the age of 14.

my mail

mukesh_jat53@hotmail.com

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Ifeatu — Thu, 12 Jun 2008 18:26:58 GMT

I am quite impressed of you young geniuses. Keep it up!!!!

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usman khan — Fri, 27 Jun 2008 23:58:04 GMT

i think its not too difficult to make a software through course of C LANGUAGE OR C++ LANGUAGE both courses are avialable in pakistan in many computer acadmeis and if u r intrested u can also join that its only 3 months coarse and after three moths u will b abale to developed ur own software so its good that she have done it but i think u should all who comment on this do instead of.................. its not tooooo difficult

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Aslam Khan — Fri, 15 Aug 2008 09:19:17 GMT

Hi guys ,

Dont you know about the 3 world records holder.

very impressive & genius Babar Iqbal.

World's Youngest Microsoft Student Partner

http://student-partners.com/members/Babar.aspx

Check www.YoungestMCP.com

& www.YoungestMSP.com

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Fatima Tanveer — Sun, 12 Oct 2008 14:40:54 GMT

well that is good of Arfa to achieve this goal.

But I would also like to say that I am a Pakistani too and even 1year younger than Arfa too but I also want the people to know that I am a MICROSOFT CERTIFIED PROFESSIONAL.& i DID IT in 2006.But still I haven't got any appreciation neither from the Government of Pakistan nor from somebody else So I just want to ask one simple question:"DONT I DESERVE TO BE APPRECIATED TOO?"

WITH REGARDS,

AND WITH LOTS OF HOPES FOR APPRECIATION!

FATIMA.

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Mukesh Jat — Tue, 18 Nov 2008 04:04:04 GMT

In India i am the 2nd Youngest MCP Certified. and 1st AFCEH Certified in the age of 14 years. But the government of India not give me any importance why?

They give importance to the only "Songs and Dance Competition " Why?

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Bashir khan — Wed, 14 Jan 2009 14:31:35 GMT

Hello!

Arfa Karim is not good because Babar Iqbal break her record.Babar Iqbal world youngest record holder.mcp,cwna,ciw

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Abeera — Fri, 12 Jun 2009 18:25:21 GMT

I really feel proud that a Pakistani has done this! It is a great achievement for her as well as for every Pakistani (including me). Now, I am doing MCSE but I am 12 years old. I wish I will be able to clear this. InshaAllah! I feel like I will be able to complete this if I work hard and I already am and always will!! Best of luck to Arfa as well!!!!!

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kabir ahmad — Tue, 16 Jun 2009 05:21:20 GMT

i m first time meitng ur ahievements through the net. i am wonder all about that.i have very very litle knowledge about computer stil i want to be a progrmer in this field. i tink tou all have some thing gifted naturally and i think i m not blessed with such gifts like you all have.

will plese somebody help me in this regard. ishall be vey thnkful.

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Mukesh Jat — Tue, 21 Jul 2009 05:10:42 GMT

Hi Kabir,

Kabir there is nothing gifted by GOD. Naturally GOD gifted we all a small thing in our HEAD. We have to modify that small thing and create our future.

If you are intrested in Programming your target is only Programming nothing else You Will Get Success.

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Mukesh Jat — Sun, 26 Jul 2009 04:38:18 GMT

Hi,

I am Mukesh Jat from Udaipur (Rajasthan) INDIA.

I am the yougest MCSA and AFCEH Certified in my country.

MY MCP ID is 6213844

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mohit kandpal — Thu, 20 Aug 2009 14:42:44 GMT

hello,sir iam mcp from udaipur..iam 13 year old....

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