Windows Vista developer story

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Norman Sasono — Fri, 28 Jul 2006 10:40:34 GMT

Interesting!

Now about the 7,000 native APIs. They must be either Win32 or COM. Unmanaged.

What's the plan for the managed view for those new APIs? Orcas time frame?

Till then, should we go DIY or will there be PIA?

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J. Ackass — Fri, 28 Jul 2006 13:01:53 GMT

I thought Vista was gonna be simplified?

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Pee.T.here — Fri, 28 Jul 2006 15:31:35 GMT

Sure sounds like it is going be another insecure, unstable software product from the company that brought us Windows ME and Outlook

Windows Vista developer story

Mighell's blog — Fri, 28 Jul 2006 17:55:42 GMT

E’ sempre iteressante leggere i post di Somasegar. Non sono tecnici (lui è Corporate VP), ma danno sempre...

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tomarcher — Fri, 28 Jul 2006 18:10:45 GMT

<<< "I thought Vista was gonna be simplified"

From a dev point of view, I think it's a misnomer to equate more APIs with compexity or to assume that more APIs and simplicity are mutually exclusive.

In reality, more APIs simply means easier, documented access to operating system abilities that either didn't exist before or that had to be customer developed (or purchased) by the dev/customer.

Therefore, from the perspective of accessing functionality that either didn't exist before or was difficult to achieve, the new native APIs make it markedly easier to develop for Windows Vista than previous versions of Windows.

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Dave Jewell — Fri, 28 Jul 2006 19:39:38 GMT

<< In reality, more APIs simply means easier,
<< documented access to operating system abilities
<< that either didn't exist before or that had to be
<< customer developed (or purchased) by the
<< dev/customer.

Wrong. The one thing we can say for sure is that more API's means more complexity. Why? Because those API's are added to the thousands of API's that already exist. x+7000 gives a number greater than 'x'. Go figure.

Hopefully, Microsoft will have documented these API's well, and hopefully they will have had the sense to provide an object oriented interface to these API's even for unmanaged coders. But none of this is certain.

Dave

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tomarcher — Sat, 29 Jul 2006 07:40:02 GMT

Norman: Sorry to take so long in responding, but I wanted to confirm. There are efforts to make sure that many of the most common scenarios and experiences in Vista are supported by managed code APIs. However, that doesn’t necessarily extend to create managed equivalents for all of them. Are you concerned only about stuff related to BCL types or other scenarios (e.g. file open dialogs and Winforms)?

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Cyphorous — Sat, 29 Jul 2006 09:57:08 GMT

Well. I m new at developing with the .NET Technologies. But it sure sound interesting with the size of the APIs. But i would definitely suggest that they should be properly documented.

Thanks.

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tomarcher — Sat, 29 Jul 2006 21:51:27 GMT

Cyphorous - Each team's UE (User Experience) department is hard at work doing just that. In addition, Intellisense files are constantly being updated in order to aid in developing applications with editors that support Intellisense - such as Visual Studio 2005.

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chan — Tue, 08 Aug 2006 04:06:37 GMT

Nice one...

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magicbean — Sun, 28 Sep 2008 02:21:08 GMT

>>We have added more than 7,000 new native APIs for

>>Windows developers in Windows Vista

i wonder what it takes to publish that 7000 APIs. It's 7000 end-developer functions and methods!

there's about 1200 header files in sdk for vista. so it's about 5.8 new functions for each header file.

is this a joke?

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