Announcements from PDC 2008

Visual Studio 2010 and .NET Framework 4.0 CTP are available now

B# .NET Blog — Mon, 27 Oct 2008 22:32:08 GMT

The word is out finally. With the PDC 08 going on as we speak, you can now download the bits of the next

The Visual Studio 2010 & .NET Framework 4.0 CTP Release & Feedback

Othmane - DevDiv Product Feedback — Mon, 27 Oct 2008 22:35:35 GMT

As you have probably seen in Soma’s Blog , we have just released the Community technology preview(CTP)

re: Announcements from PDC 2008

MPS — Mon, 27 Oct 2008 23:19:10 GMT

Will the Task Parallel library and plinq just be part of .net 4.0, or will they be available to people on 3.5 as well?

Does oslo have Cote’D’Azur?

Marat Bakirov [MSFT] — Mon, 27 Oct 2008 23:26:40 GMT

Коллеги, не могу пройти мимо анонсов с последнего PDC. Желающие могут посмотреть keynote pdc в записи

re: Announcements from PDC 2008

MR — Mon, 27 Oct 2008 23:39:23 GMT

YAWN. Cloud computing is just another effort by Microsoft to ultimately force businesses into a pay-as-you-go software service model. And hey - why wouldn't developers work extra hard to accommodate Microsoft's glorious vision?

Well, I can think of *lots* of reasons. :-)

re: Announcements from PDC 2008

Regis — Mon, 27 Oct 2008 23:56:17 GMT

It's great to the have this CTP available now ! I was eagger to get it and start playing with it. Thanks.

By the way, do we have any 'cloud' features available in this CTP ?

Microsoft Pre-release Software Visual Studio 2010 and .NET Framework 4.0 Community Technology Preview (CTP)!

Sam Gentile If (DeveloperTask==Communication && OS==Windows) — Tue, 28 Oct 2008 00:03:17 GMT

I just found it here ! Update: It is also here on the Connect site. Update: Somasegar covers this and

re: Announcements from PDC 2008

Colin — Tue, 28 Oct 2008 00:53:26 GMT

Great stuff Soma. Shame about the H2 2009 commercial availability - but something to work with is very welcome.

re: Announcements from PDC 2008

Somasegar — Tue, 28 Oct 2008 02:43:57 GMT

Hi Regis,

The cloud tools features are not part of the VS 2010 and .NET FX CTP. There were too many moving parts and so we ended up doing the cloud tools work as a add-on to VS 2008. The team is working on integrating this with VS 2010.

-somasegar

Récap du Keynote d’ouverture de la PDC’08 de Los Angeles : Windows Azure !

ASP.NET Français Blogs — Tue, 28 Oct 2008 03:03:44 GMT

Le moins qu’on puisse dire : c’est qu’on attendait des annonces majeures pour cette édition 2008 de la

Check out the new Team System 2010 CTP

Jeff Beehler's Blog — Tue, 28 Oct 2008 04:45:08 GMT

I’m really excited about the news today that we’ve released the latest Team System 2010 Community Tech

Novidades do .NET 4.0 e VS 2010

Eduardo Spaki — Tue, 28 Oct 2008 13:46:19 GMT

Muitas novidades aconteceram e vem acontecendo no mundo de tecnologia e desenvolvimento. Principalmente

PDC08 Day 1 Coverage Links

Sam Gentile If (DeveloperTask==Communication && OS==Windows) — Tue, 28 Oct 2008 15:49:59 GMT

Here is my wrapper topic/links from some people I trust on the Keynote and Day1: Matt Milner - PDC Keynote

re: Announcements from PDC 2008

Regis — Tue, 28 Oct 2008 18:47:43 GMT

Thanks Soma for replying about cloud features in this CTP.

My other concern is regarding help/documentation. Is there any "ctp/beta" library available for this CT? Any .chm about .Net Framework 4.0 or Visual Studio 2010 ?

re: Announcements from PDC 2008

Somasegar — Tue, 28 Oct 2008 20:35:57 GMT

Hi MPS,

TPL and PLinq are available in the download of Parallel Extensions to the .NET Framework 3.5, available at http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/concurrency/bb896007.aspx.

The Visual Studio 2010 CTP consists of updated versions of these same libraries. To find out more about the differences, check here: http://download.microsoft.com/download/9/7/3/97392db4-632a-42cc-a6ed-02864305f2e3/Microsoft%20Parallel%20Technologies%20for%20Managed%20Code%20Developers%20October%202008.xps

-somasegar

Visual Studio 2010 CTP available: Including the Concurrency Runtime, Parallel Pattern Library and Asynchronous Agents Library!

Parallel Programming in Native Code — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 03:23:59 GMT

In his blog post on Monday, Soma mentioned some of the great things happening at PDC 2008 and also announced

re: Announcements from PDC 2008

Mark Gordon — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 04:40:56 GMT

Soma,

You are talking about cloud computing let's face it that is a recurring monthly revenue stream for microsoft besides the fact the driving forcing is web-enabling office to compete with google. Developers once again were an after thought in the cloud paradigm. The frustrating part is VFP and VB solutions were royalty free and THEY worked.

Then you go on to discuss simplifying parallel computing when Visual Studio is bugging and is not even "truely" N-TIER compliant and quess what is still lack a freaking data centric language. Unbelievable!

Why don't you guys quit blue skying this technology nonsense and give us what we want, tools that work and enable us to do our jobs ! Take a lesson from VB and VFP and quit trying to reinvent the wheel because you are NO good at it!

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anonymuos — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 05:47:10 GMT

Visual C++/Visual Basic 4.0, 5.0 - Windows 95, Windows NT 4.0

Visual Studio 6.0 - Windows 98

Visual Studio 6.0 - Windows 2000, Windows Me

Visual Studio 6.0, Visual Studio .NET - Windows XP

Visual Studio .NET 2003 - Windows XP

Visual Studio 2005 - Windows XP

Visual Studio 2008 - Windows Vista

Visual Studio 2010 - Windows 7

Windows 7 introduces a solid new developer platform. Sadly, MS will require devs to upgrade to 2010 for full Windows 7 programming support when VS 2008 should be fully supported for Windows 7 development or Visual Studio 2010's WPF IDE and parallel programming improvements should be given away free.

Gone are those days when Windows XP enjoyed 3 development platforms or Visual Studio 6.0 could target 3 OS generations.

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fudge — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 18:26:19 GMT

Last I'd heard VB6 can still target all of those platforms. Of course I've heard nothing official on Win7 yet but the rumors seem strong.

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Dev — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 18:43:30 GMT

Microsoft, it seems, can only look into the future - they no longer seem able to focus on the present. We're still using C++ every single to day to build our (successful commercial) desktop software products. We do this because MS still us no truly effective alternatives.

MS seemingly abandons development technologies just as they become mature (e.g. Windows Forms and ASP.NET already treated as secondary to WPF and Silverlight, for example). The MS development stack is increasingly a hodgepodge of the latest fads - a case of shiny object syndrome running horribly deep.

As for Cloud Computing - it has far more to do with Microsoft business initiatives than it does with our development efforts.

On the positive side, I do think the new concurrency abstractions will be useful in the general sense. I hope this area gets the attention it needs.

re: Announcements from PDC 2008

MegP_MS — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 23:45:22 GMT

Anonymous -

There should be no issues using VS 2008 with the Windows 7 version of the Platform SDK. In fact, that is what is getting the bulk of the testing right now from Microsoft since that is what the Windows team is currently using for its internal development.

re: Announcements from PDC 2008

EricTN — Thu, 30 Oct 2008 02:16:49 GMT

@Mark Gordon - "Developers once again were an after thought in the cloud paradigm. The frustrating part is VFP and VB solutions were royalty free and THEY worked." Wha..? VFP and VB6 are technologies that *still* work - they just don't solve the problems that .NET tries to solve, and that Azure is trying to solve. You can still do useful things with a Microsoft C compiler released in the 80's, but, sorry, we're not going to halt everything right there.

@Dev - "MS seemingly abandons development technologies just as they become mature (e.g. Windows Forms and ASP.NET already treated as secondary to WPF and Silverlight, for example)." Wha....?? With ScottGu and others doing so much great work with ASP.NET MVC? Are you even following what's going on??

Man... maybe we should have halted the development of new popular music once Disco had been achieved. That's what you guys and others who voice similar opinions sound like to the rest of us.

Noticias desde PDC 2008

Blog de Soma en español — Thu, 30 Oct 2008 19:55:09 GMT

Publicación del inglés original : Lunes, 27 de octubre de 2008 12:09 PM PST por Somasegar Este año PDC

re: Announcements from PDC 2008

Bo — Thu, 30 Oct 2008 22:28:09 GMT

Please make .NET a more interesting framework for science and science education by adding complex number and matrix to the .NET library, so that they can be used in all .NET languages.

F# already has them. How difficult would it be to make them .NET standards?

There are lots of codes for science in C/C++. It is much easier to reuse them in C#, if it supports complex and matrix, than to rewrite them in F#.

Even C has complex numbers now! And there is a good reason for it. We use it everyday!

Please do it!!! It may help to keep some of us on the Windows platform.

Of all the relatively new languages, only Phython got the numbers right. In my oppinion, ISO should not approve any language, such as C#, that does not has complex numbers.

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anonymuos — Sun, 02 Nov 2008 23:43:44 GMT

@MegP_MS, yes, but will VS 2008 have support in the form of an update for all the new features with Windows 7? Even VS 2005 works with Vista but for Vista-specific features (.NET 3.0/3.5, WPF designer etc) VS 2008 is required.

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Max Palmer — Wed, 05 Nov 2008 15:12:43 GMT

Somasegar,

this is really good news. The parallel session from Daniel Moth at PDC was excellent. Really excellent. However, it only heightens the need for these tools now (or at least something we could ship against).

One thing I am slightly confused about is how .NET 4, VS 2010 and Windows 7 are coupled. Are they all tied into approximately the same release schedule? Will .NET4 ship with Windows 7? Ok, VS2010 could make it into late 2009, as VS2008 did (in 2007). That's still a year away at best for the parallel extensions (appearing in .NET 4) though. Perhaps Daniel's talk was too inspiring!

Finally, also great to see VS2010 move to WPF. Should mean good stuff for the WPF designer too hopefully, which needs work IMHO.

Max

re: Announcements from PDC 2008

Somasegar — Thu, 06 Nov 2008 08:51:58 GMT

Hi Max,

I’m glad to see that you are excited about the tools and frameworks coming out for Parallel computing. I hope you continue to play with them and give us feedback.

The version of the .NET Framework that will ship with Windows7 is .NET FX 3.5 SP1.

As we make more progress on these different product lines, we will be able to share more about the release timeline for the different products.

-somasegar

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rob — Fri, 07 Nov 2008 06:41:52 GMT

a nice article on building apps on Azure

http://dotnetslackers.com/articles/aspnet/Building-applications-for-Windows-Azure.aspx

Parallel Computing Features Added to .NET Framework 4.0, Visual Studio 2010

US ISV Developer Evangelism Team — Mon, 10 Nov 2008 20:39:28 GMT

The increase in speed at computers has shifted from ever increasing clock speed to the addition of multiple

Parallel Computing & .NET Framework 4.0, Visual Studio 2010

Guy kolbis — Thu, 13 Nov 2008 11:44:53 GMT

Microsoft Visual Studio 2010 and the .NET Framework 4.0 will include programming models for Parallel

Microsoft Pre-release Software Visual Studio 2010 and .NET Framework 4.0 Community Technology Preview (CTP)!

Sam Gentile's Blog — Sun, 30 Nov 2008 22:14:14 GMT

I just found it here ! Update: It is also here on the Connect site. Update: Somasegar covers this and more in Announcements from PDC2008...

re: Announcements from PDC 2008

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