Silverlight 3

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registry cleaners — Sat, 11 Jul 2009 21:32:45 GMT

Thanks for the info about silverlight 3 and short tutorial. I am very impressed by the example of Perspective 3D.

George

Namaste!

Silverlight 3

Phani Kiran Challa — Sun, 12 Jul 2009 03:08:41 GMT

I found the out - of browser experience very useful. Thanks a lot

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Deepak — Sun, 12 Jul 2009 06:33:04 GMT

It is great to see Silverlight maturing by every release. Silverlight 3 definitely makes it more real-world ready and the feature set is most welcome. Congratulations to Silverlight 3 team for getting this out so soon.

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S. Somasegar — Sun, 12 Jul 2009 22:51:39 GMT

Thanks folks for all the kind words.

-somasegar

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Vikram Pendse — Wed, 15 Jul 2009 19:46:12 GMT

Very simple and smart tutorial on perspective 3D ! ..and yes,yet another great product from MS :) , People in community are so excited, already started discussions on wishlist of SL4.

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Paresh — Wed, 15 Jul 2009 23:23:41 GMT

Good One and equally useful...I appreciate the entire portray and contents about SL3...

Silverlight 3

Silverlight3 — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 13:58:00 GMT

Silverlight3 benefits:

Read how Silverlight's Rich Media Platform Delivers Powerful Results for Fans of New Cricket League (IPL) http://tinyurl.com/mwl6db

See how TDK-Lambda uses Silverlight's cross-browser plug-in to enable LOB. http://tinyurl.com/nh7b5a

See how Silverlight's Cross-Platform Plug-In Powers Rich Internet Applications for Scientists at National Instruments http://tinyurl.com/n5etr7

Read how Continental Airlines modernizes call center application with Silverlight Technology http://tinyurl.com/ng9b3b

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davidlgordon@hotmail.com — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 20:02:07 GMT

Too bad Silverlight 3 doesn't support datasets that are returned from the business layers. All this eye candy is worthless and takes too much time to develop to recoup the cost for the business it will draw.

Microsoft told us for years to invest development dollars in Web Services and now it doesn't support a basic unit of datasets and requires us to spend more money on rewriting the business layer.

THE LIGHT IS GOING OUT.

If this Flash wannabe doesn't support our business dollars investment, then it is basically useless to business. The HCI people should just stay with FLASH until Microsoft figures out it place in business.

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BradA — Fri, 17 Jul 2009 10:34:05 GMT

David – you have great point.. I totally agree that Silverlight can’t be all eye candy… the vast majority of business applications require much more. I’d invite you to check out .NET RIA Services… It is targeted at exactly the sort of apps you are talking about. I am doing a blog post series on it right now and I expect to cover using DataSets with RIA Services very soon.

http://blogs.msdn.com/brada

and feel free to drop me a line at brada@microsoft.com

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Tom — Fri, 17 Jul 2009 16:40:49 GMT

Datasets are bad for performance and scalability anyways. It is best to avoid Datasets. Using custom business objects is a far better way to build real business applications giving better flexibility, scalability and performance.

The main thing behind Silverlight is to keep the runtime small. Adding Datasets directly to Silverlight bloats it up. It's best that its not included - good decision by Microsoft!

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Ed — Mon, 20 Jul 2009 07:58:41 GMT

@davidlgordon

I'm one of the few that think it's a good think Silverlight does not support datasets. It's just too clunky if you have to pass datasets to and from the server. Remember Silverlight is a client-side app for web.

However, I'm glad Silverlight 3.0 introduces binary serialization. About time.

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Sam — Wed, 22 Jul 2009 05:52:02 GMT

In accord with Tom and Ed. THE LIGHT IS SHINING. An opportunity to rectify past mis-steps is here for some.

@davidlgordon

MCP.NET — Wed, 22 Jul 2009 19:51:18 GMT

Maybe "Microsoft told us for years to invest development dollars in Web Services" but they don't tell you to use DATASETs in WS. Datasets are good for quick and dirty work at home but not for enterprise level apps. On Microsoft site you can find comparison of datasets and other techonlogies and Microsoft never hided that.

Sorry that you picked the easiest way to do things: just click and everything done.

Start doing real WORK not begginers steps.

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Ed — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 20:40:52 GMT

Datasets are not 'bad' for performance and scalability. I have applications, including web services (and enterprise apps) that prove that very wrong. And they are WAY more flexible than business objects. They serialize well (they are NOT clunky to pass from the server), and changing the returned columns requires less updating of code.

We will probably end up using RIA services, but that is not the only way to do things and maybe not the best in the long run.

Haven't tried this but ComponentOne.com does have a Silverlight component that allows you to pass DataSets directly. And there is a project on Codeplex as well.

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Simplicity — Fri, 24 Jul 2009 21:42:02 GMT

@Ed

It depends on the traffic volume on your servers and number of users. If you have a small user base with low-medium volume it doesn't matter. As the servers get hit with more n more users/requests, your application/servers will suffer in performance and you will face scalability issues as compared to using Business objects that are light weight and easier to customize.

No serious enterprise web applications use DataSets. First of all try simulations with number of users, traffic, etc on your visual studio team system and see the difference in performance yourself before making statements.

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Concerned User — Fri, 31 Jul 2009 17:18:09 GMT

Soma,

What is Microsoft doing launching video websites using Flash?

http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2009/07/30/silverlight-not-so-flash-for-microsoft/

Aren't you guys suppose to promote Silverlight! Microsoft has to do MUCH more if it wants to succeed.

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Brian Goldfarb — Sat, 01 Aug 2009 10:09:39 GMT

@concerned user

I talked with Erik Jorgensen, Corporate Vice President of MSN, and he told me that MSN is deeply committed to Silverlight. They’ve demonstrated by its bet on Silverlight for many of its high profile sites and applications such as the NBC Summer Olympics, MSN Toolbar, MSN Money Advanced Portfolio Manager, several MSN Entertainment sites, and more. With the exciting differentiation of Silverlight’s Smooth Streaming and true HD-video capabilities, MSN Video worldwide is already on path to move to Microsoft Silverlight in the coming months.

Additionally, there are over 300 internal Microsoft products and Websites now using Silverlight, including Office 14, Office Online, MSN, Windows Live, SharePoint/MOSS, Visio and Virtual Earth.

Hope this helps.

-Brian Goldfarb

Director, Product Management

Web and UX Platforms

Microsoft

Somasegar's WebLog : Silverlight 3

billedwards — Wed, 19 Aug 2009 16:37:10 GMT

In accord with Tom and Ed. THE LIGHT IS SHINING. An opportunity to rectify past mis-steps is here for some.

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Hidan — Mon, 07 Sep 2009 14:50:42 GMT

When I run this example, I get this Error:

Message: Unknown attribute ShortName on element Deployment.OutOfBrowserSettings

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phuff — Tue, 08 Sep 2009 21:06:26 GMT

Hidan, you're right. The post is now updated with the correct settings.

Polita Paulus

Developer Division

Microsoft

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Marcel — Wed, 09 Sep 2009 02:33:14 GMT

I have reviewed the information included in the Silverlight SDK and my first impression is positive. I am very surprised that Microsoft didn't released Silverlight before... I would appreciate if you can give me a tip in what tools are you using for producing those slideshows that are displayed with Silverlight.

Thanks,

Marcel

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phuff — Wed, 09 Sep 2009 02:48:24 GMT

Marcel, this last July we released the third version of Silverlight.

Can you clarify what you mean by "slideshow"? The images in this post are all of the Silverlight app running in the browser. In this case, the browser is IE7. The application was developed using the Beta 1 version of Visual Studio 2010. Does that answer your question?

Polita Paulus

Developer Division

Microsoft

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Marcel — Thu, 10 Sep 2009 20:00:59 GMT

Hi Polita

1) I would like to know what tools do you use to produce the videos that are displayed in Expression Web Showcase.

http://www.microsoft.com/video/en/us/details/ce646dc7-e0bd-45e3-b01b-a8406c1aa61f

2) I have been waiting a long time for a tool like Silverlight

The first version of Silverlight was released on

2007-09-05.

Thanks,

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Jon Harris — Mon, 14 Sep 2009 19:35:07 GMT

Hi Marcel

The videos on the Expression Web Showcase were produced with Camtasia Studio. (http://www.techsmith.com/camtasia.asp)

In fact we used Camtasia for all the Expression product videos. As you would expect TechSmith have a 30 day trial if you'd like to try it out.

I hope this helps.

Jon Harris

Senior Product Manager

Expression Blend, SketchFlow and Design

Microsoft Corporation

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Marcel — Wed, 16 Sep 2009 19:56:50 GMT

Hi Jon,

Will try that, thanks for the tip!

Marcel

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harry reynols — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:09:56 GMT

Very good article. I loved the information on the Silverlight 3.