ASP.NET, Atlas, Windows Forms and WPF

re: ASP.NET, Atlas, Windows Forms and WPF

davidacoder — Fri, 24 Feb 2006 19:40:56 GMT

There are more choices: Infopath forms (and with Infopath 2007) you will be able to host those in your own apps, which might be very interesting. And then there is the mysterious WPF/E. I guess we have to wait until MIX06 to learn what that really is...

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chullybun — Sat, 25 Feb 2006 07:11:13 GMT

From a technologist perspective I certainly agree, the challenge is convincing an organisation to invest in the right technology for the application versus the Web based application is good enough approach, and others such as that is all our developers know, deployment is hard, that will cost too much. They seem to forget the poor users, and end up providing them with a less than optimal solution. We need a better means to sell the technologies and benefits at the senior management / CIO level - thoughts?

ASP.NET, Atlas, Windows Forms and WPF

Federal Developer Weblog — Mon, 27 Feb 2006 17:58:55 GMT

Are you unsure of what the right presentation layer technology is for your applications?&nbsp; Tim Sneath...

ASP.NET, Atlas, Windows Forms and WPF - how do they fit together?

Robert Burke's Weblog — Wed, 01 Mar 2006 16:09:33 GMT

There are so many choices for your presentation layer.&nbsp;
Windows Forms is mature, reliable, tried...

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PAUL CROSS — Fri, 03 Mar 2006 20:16:58 GMT

Tim Sneath&nbsp;has a great post&nbsp;that clearly articulates the choices available when designing user...

re: ASP.NET, Atlas, Windows Forms and WPF

Mitch Barnett — Sun, 05 Mar 2006 06:40:03 GMT

Hi Tim, great post on describing presentation layer technologies. Makes sense to me as a long time MS developer.

However, the issue I have is the fact that there are 5 (actually 7 if you count SharePoint Designer and InfoPath) technologies provided by one vendor (i.e. Microsoft) to develop user interfaces. Worse yet, for each technology are multiple tools. Even XAML for WPF has Cider and Expression Interactive Designer, which are two totally different tools, yet produce the same output.

With only so many hours in the day, it makes it really difficult for developers that not only have to develop user interfaces, but business logic, workflow, web services and data access to learn any of these technologies in any depth to become real proficient at it. It took me 4 years and 25 projects later (in a professional services setting) to become proficient at BizTalk Server (all 4 versions, 5 if you count the jumpstart toolkit).

I am hoping one day that Microsoft and other vendors start consolidating their technologies so there is one user interface technology to learn, then maybe I will have a chance at becoming proficient at it :-)

Cheers,

Mitch

re: ASP.NET, Atlas, Windows Forms and WPF

Evan Lenz — Sun, 05 Mar 2006 12:22:08 GMT

You wrote that WPF enables: "complex data visualization, superb text flow content rendering or dynamic interactive experiences".

I have a personal project that ideally will exploit all three of the above in equal measure. I look forward to reading about the early adopter customers you alluded to.

Thanks,
Evan

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crish — Mon, 06 Mar 2006 14:09:04 GMT

Hi Tim,
Thats very informative blog!!

I need information about a couple of features in WPF. Do let me know if you have come across such scenario...

Could you please let me know how can I implement
1. Aero Glass feature for my wndows forms.
2. Transperent look of drop down list in address bar of IE in vista in my windows form.
3. TreeView control in Vista on to windows forms.

Thanks in advance...

re: ASP.NET, Atlas, Windows Forms and WPF

Tomas Studva — Wed, 08 Mar 2006 12:46:40 GMT

Hi,
I'm interested in use of Atlas in ASP.NET development for commercial use. You said:We'll ship Atlas as part of "Orcas", the next release of Visual Studio. Maybe it is secret or not clear now, but when will be usable ATLAS for commercial use? At time of release of ORCA, or earlier?
Thanx.

Windows Forms are your future

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re: ASP.NET, Atlas, Windows Forms and WPF

Simon — Thu, 09 Mar 2006 21:09:47 GMT

Just for clarification. My understanding is that Atlas will be made available (soon) as an add-in to Visual Studio 2005. With the "Orcas" release of Visual Studio (i.e. VS2007) it will be part of the standard install.

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Jerome Carron's Weblog — Sat, 11 Mar 2006 17:28:01 GMT

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re: ASP.NET, Atlas, Windows Forms and WPF

tims — Wed, 15 Mar 2006 01:38:23 GMT

Simon and Tomas, we'll announce more about Atlas at the mix06 conference next week in Las Vegas - check http://asp.net for updates.

Crish, that's a great set of questions. I'm currently working on a post covering the first of those questions at least, and we're working in general on a whole set of content topics on this area for the SDK. Stand by...

Windows Presentation Foundation ou Atlas?

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re: ASP.NET, Atlas, Windows Forms and WPF

Rod Macdonald — Thu, 23 Mar 2006 23:48:55 GMT

Tim,

I'm sorry to say that your reference to 5 technologies (actually 6 if you include WPF/E) shows the silly situation MS puts us all in. It was yours truly who suggested to MS back in 2000/01 that it was about time the Windows UI began to resemble a web page that you could manipulate with tools that rendered the look and feel of a Photoshop output (Just as it was your truly who told your Java lead to build an alternative to Java - Michael Edwards!!!). Surely .NET 1.0 should have been about one set of controls - set a property and you have WPF or WPF/E. Everything else is a waste of time. ASP.NET was a clever stall and maybe MS think they're clever enough to stall further with Live and Atlas. Personally I think MS really fear that they can't put Windows Applications back on the map, a situation that should never have got out of control. It's madness and am sorry to say I think MS deserves a bloody nose if Macromedia release Flex 2.0 for .NET, you'll lose Windows Forms for ever.

P.S. whilst VS2005 really is very shoddy in places, the deprecation of controls was absolutely the correct way to handle things.

Yours sincerely,
Rod Macdonald

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When will the final WinFX bits be available?&nbsp;
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re: ASP.NET, Atlas, Windows Forms and WPF

George — Fri, 07 Apr 2006 08:54:54 GMT

Will VS2007 still on .NET 2.0?

When to use WPF

Ranjith Ramakrishnan's Blog — Thu, 13 Apr 2006 03:46:37 GMT

I have been playing with WPF for quite some while now and have been involved with several applications...

re: ASP.NET, Atlas, Windows Forms and WPF

Jeff — Tue, 25 Apr 2006 00:29:26 GMT

Will the Expressions Web Designer allow/ use WebDAV for publishing or will it require sharepoint or Front Page Server Extensions? We're looking to replace Front Page at work and Expressions Web Designer is one we're looking at possibly going to but we use WebDAV almost exclusively to work with files on the web server.

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