http://blogs.msdn.com/tmiller/archive/2004/06/03/148207.aspxAh, the good ol' render loop. Everyone's favorite topic of conversation. As I'm sure everyone is aware, the Managed DirectX samples that shipped with the DirectX9 SDK as well as the Summer 2003 update used the 'dreaded' DoEvents() loop I speak so negativelyen-USCommunityServer 2.1 SP1 (Build: 61025.2)http://blogs.msdn.com/tmiller/archive/2004/06/03/148207.aspx#148243Fri, 04 Jun 2004 07:33:00 GMT91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:148243Micael BaerensHi Tom, <br> <br>P/Invoking, to me at least, seems like a step backwards. While I understand the reasoning - performance - my personal feeling is that the reason for using _Managed_ DirectX would presumably be the ease of use of the framework, rather than performance. <br> <br>My feeling is that the official samples from Microsoft should strive for conformance - not performance, because the samples are going to teach a lot of developers how to use DirectX. <br> <br>Is the point of the samples to demonstrate how to get started using Managed DirectX, or how to perform advanced optimization techniques? <br> <br>I think it will have an adverse effect on the .NET/DirectX effort.http://blogs.msdn.com/tmiller/archive/2004/06/03/148207.aspx#148290Fri, 04 Jun 2004 09:55:00 GMT91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:148290KavanAnd what's the benefits of it anyway? I've created a full managed game with mdx and never had a problem with DoEvents (I used DirectInput for keyboard/mouse input). When you're having troubles with shortlived objects being promoted to gen1 it usually won't help eliminating DoEvents or other events. It's more likely it's design issue with your program like a huge number of boxing. Do you have at least any numbers that support the theory that this way is more performant?http://blogs.msdn.com/tmiller/archive/2004/06/03/148207.aspx#148703Fri, 04 Jun 2004 18:50:00 GMT91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:148703Tom MillerThe idea of the sample framework is that you just dump it into your application and use it. The implementation (from a 'users' perspective) shouldn't matter, so long as it works and is fast. The new sample framework is both. <br> <br>Plus you definitely don't want the sample framework to potentially affect *your* code that's running, which could happen in the other scenarios (such as with the previous versions of the sample framework).http://blogs.msdn.com/tmiller/archive/2004/06/03/148207.aspx#149246Sat, 05 Jun 2004 16:14:00 GMT91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:149246KavanWell as long as the MDX makes it possible to instantiate a device in a managed form or picture box it's ok with me.http://blogs.msdn.com/tmiller/archive/2004/06/03/148207.aspx#149367Sun, 06 Jun 2004 01:14:00 GMT91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:149367Tom MillerOf course you can.http://blogs.msdn.com/tmiller/archive/2004/06/03/148207.aspx#149737Sun, 06 Jun 2004 23:12:00 GMT91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:149737AndyCan you give any clues as to when the 04' update will be made available?http://blogs.msdn.com/tmiller/archive/2004/06/03/148207.aspx#152784Thu, 10 Jun 2004 17:26:00 GMT91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:152784ACFrom my perspective, you definitely made the right decision by favoring performance. There are already lots of 'conformant' mdx examples and tutorials on the net. What is missing is more advanced functionality and real-life/production code examples.http://blogs.msdn.com/tmiller/archive/2004/06/03/148207.aspx#153517Fri, 11 Jun 2004 13:40:00 GMT91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:153517EricIs it possible to have a preview of this new RenderLoop ?http://blogs.msdn.com/tmiller/archive/2004/06/03/148207.aspx#154002Sat, 12 Jun 2004 02:31:00 GMT91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:154002phoThe render loop gets switched. <br>C# gets switched with version 2. <br>DirectX gets switched with XNA. <br> <br>Here's one u can't answer: <br>What's the future of MDX in relation to XNA?http://blogs.msdn.com/tmiller/archive/2004/06/03/148207.aspx#203127Sat, 31 Jul 2004 19:53:00 GMT91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:203127DarrenI am new to DirectX programming and I just bought your book (which is excellent by the way). Unfortunately, I already installed the Summer 2004 update and now I am receiving build errors whenever I try to compile the examples from your book. For instance, it appears the SetPosition method has been removed from the CustomVertex.TranformedColored class that is used in the Chapter 1 examples. What should I do? Should I uninstall the Summer 2004 SDK and go back to the Summer 2003 SDK instead? Any info or suggestions anybody can offer would be greatly appreciated.http://blogs.msdn.com/tmiller/archive/2004/06/03/148207.aspx#244997Wed, 20 Oct 2004 14:01:00 GMT91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:244997Abstract Deviancehttp://blogs.msdn.com/tmiller/archive/2004/06/03/148207.aspx#9654189Fri, 29 May 2009 19:30:14 GMT91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:9654189 Tom Miller s Blog The Renderloop Re Revisted | Paid Surveys<p>PingBack from <a rel="nofollow" target="_new" href="http://paidsurveyshub.info/story.php?title=tom-miller-s-blog-the-renderloop-re-revisted">http://paidsurveyshub.info/story.php?title=tom-miller-s-blog-the-renderloop-re-revisted</a></p> http://blogs.msdn.com/tmiller/archive/2004/06/03/148207.aspx#9745336Sat, 13 Jun 2009 17:08:40 GMT91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:9745336 Tom Miller s Blog The Renderloop Re Revisted | Quick Diets<p>PingBack from <a rel="nofollow" target="_new" href="http://quickdietsite.info/story.php?id=12325">http://quickdietsite.info/story.php?id=12325</a></p>