Gmail disappointing me... a lot like Walmart

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re: Gmail disappointing me... a lot like Walmart

Kris — Fri, 23 Feb 2007 09:36:55 GMT

I agree - way too much spam with gmail. Yahoo and hotmail seem to be much better.

re: Gmail disappointing me... a lot like Walmart

Dan — Sat, 24 Feb 2007 07:56:37 GMT

Atleast I'm not the only one getting these spam messages, but I don't get what your post has to do with Wal-Mart?

re: Gmail disappointing me... a lot like Walmart

Terry Zink — Sat, 24 Feb 2007 22:00:46 GMT

I was wondering how long it would be until somebody asked me about the Walmart reference.

Back in December, I needed an extra hat for my head that was something like a ski mask, but with the entire face open rather than just eyes, nose and mouth. I live in a cold country and play outdoor sports, and one hat isn't enough for me. I thought I could wear this mask and wear another hat on top of it.

Well, I went to Walmart in search of this mask and they didn't have it. Since when does Walmart not have something you're looking for? I was quite surprised. About two weeks later I went back to a different Walmart looking for the same item, and they didn't have it either. That's *twice* Walmart didn't have what I wanted. Ever since then, I have been quite disappointed in Walmart. In fact, whenever something disappoints me, I often associate it/them with Walmart.

For example, if my favorite hockey team gets knocked out of the playoffs, I'd say "Geez, those guys must have got their equipment at Walmart." It's a bit a dumb joke I have.

re: Gmail disappointing me... a lot like Walmart

Andy Davis — Mon, 26 Mar 2007 21:57:58 GMT

Is there any difference in the spam filtering for the core / free Gmail offering versus the Google Apps for domains? I had thought Google apps offers fairly strong filtering via Postini licensing but I agree - there is a ton of spam coming through basic Gmail on my account.

Good question, Andy

tzink — Sun, 01 Apr 2007 22:50:36 GMT

Good question, Andy. I don't know if there's any difference but I assume that there is. Over here at Microsoft, Hotmail's spam filtering is different than what we use do Exchange Hosted Services. In EHS, we can be more strict about what we do and do not count as spam, but more importantly, what we do and do not count as a legitimate false positive.

Business email filtering can afford to be stricter because we filter business email. If somebody is forwarding a dirty joke or getting a daily email from an x-rated blog to their business account, and we filter it, we don't consider it a false positive because it's not business related. A free service like Hotmail or Gmail wouldn't be able to get away with that so easily.

That is the way I understand it.