Information on VC2005 SP1

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WebLog of Ken Cox [MVP] — Fri, 23 Jun 2006 06:08:24 GMT

Interesting to see that Leslie Giblett,&nbsp;Release Manager on the Visual C++ team is offering specifics...

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Phaeron — Fri, 23 Jun 2006 08:24:02 GMT

Very nice! Any idea if other teams are going to post lists like these for their portions of Visual Studio or for the core?

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Steve — Thu, 06 Jul 2006 19:20:32 GMT

I love the phrase "The VS2005 SP1 release is a big win for our customers as it contains more fixes than any previous Service Pack". Wouldn't it have been a better "win" for your customers if the product didn't NEED so many fixes?

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Marc Clifton — Fri, 07 Jul 2006 14:32:58 GMT

"The VS2005 SP1 release is a big win for our customers as it contains more fixes than any previous Service Pack."

LMAO. Nice spin. Why not say it the way it is:

"VS2005 was released prematurely and was a big loss for our customers as it contained more bugs than any other product release."

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Loc — Tue, 11 Jul 2006 20:51:10 GMT

VS.Net 2005 is the worst IDE experience for platform software development -- EVER! It's SLOW, SLOW, SLOW! It hangs on opening large project. It hangs on closing large projects. You're catering to the script kiddies IT developers at the detriment of developers writing native software for Windows. You guys ought to stop hiring those flunky developers for such important products as Visual Studio and MSDN. Has Google affected you that much that all your A developers left and you're left with the C developers?

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Bill Manson — Wed, 12 Jul 2006 02:40:24 GMT

Thanks for the info on the upcoming VS 2005 SP1 release. We have found a few of these issues and have been working around them and using a hot-fix for one in particular.

I've found it to be a good product all-in-all.
As far as it's being slow - well, you probably need to upgrade to a faster system. I'm not finding it that slow on my 2.4GHz/1GbRAM system. A faster disk drive would help.

We write native s/w for Windows and have over 50K lines of code in our project. It does take a little longer to load but I've never seen it hang. Again - get a faster system if don't like how long it takes to load.

I think it's great that you provide this info in your blog. I wish other companies would do the same.

Ignore all the negativity expressed by others here.

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Javier Martínez — Mon, 17 Jul 2006 11:04:56 GMT

I think all people that works developing business application with C++ needs the VS2005 SP1. A compiler that have memory leaks in trivial code is not appropriate for developing application that have to work without stop during months.

Sorry for my English.

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Ayman Shoukry — Mon, 17 Jul 2006 21:07:50 GMT

Please make sure that this memory leak is part of the bugs we are fixing. If not, feel free to log the issue at http://connect.microsoft.com/Main/content/content.aspx?ContentID=2220 with a sample reproducing it.

Thanks,

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Minty — Tue, 18 Jul 2006 05:43:14 GMT

Thanks for your care for fixing bugs.And could you notice a issue on vista that is the msm(crt8.0,mfc8.0,atl8.0)to do something irregular to freeze installer. For example,the VC++ 2005 Redists package has the same issue.

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Underwhelmed in Detroit rock city — Wed, 02 Aug 2006 09:08:10 GMT

That's it? Wow! Talk about "resolved" by "postponed" and "maybe later". Well, should I be grateful it's not three years on like vs2003?

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jamome — Wed, 23 Aug 2006 02:42:57 GMT

Really sad how incapable the Visual Studio team is at releasing service packs - this is a VERY basic metric of a team's health. IMHO It all comes back to upper management's inability to understand and achive a product's vision. Lastly, it's just pitiful how poor the quality is in VS 2005 - super potential, yet absolutely craptactular & bugtastic!!! VS 2005 needed about 6 more months of QA, testing and bug-fixing. Just my 2 cents.

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Ken Wilson — Sat, 09 Sep 2006 04:39:22 GMT

It's all well and good to talk about SP1 for Visual Studio 2005. However, when can developers expect to be able to access this. A reasonably firm date would be nice.

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Jeff Moeller — Mon, 18 Sep 2006 18:27:30 GMT

PLEASE make SP1 available! Now is good, yesterday would be better. How about releasing some patches so we can fix some of the more serious problems?

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Ted. — Tue, 19 Sep 2006 22:32:46 GMT

The Beta's available now - just announced yesterday on the Microsoft forums

https://connect.microsoft.com/programdetails.aspx?ProgramDetailsID=857&wa=wsignin1.0

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Jimmy — Tue, 05 Dec 2006 03:22:50 GMT

"I think it's great that you provide this info in your blog."

I think this is a nice way to look at it. I love googling (ha!) for a blog entry to find out what fixes are included. It's sad that this needs to be released on a blog, thats all. Maybe the blog is the last hit of honesty? It shouldn't be.

VS drives me crazy daily, usually wasting over 1/2 an hour just recovering from it's crashes. And I'm just doing the managed stuff, I can't imagine what you VC++ guys must be going through. Anyway, I can't find an actual list of fixes, or I need to sign up for a live account to view this or that, or the link doesn't work, or the hotfix has no download details. So here I left reading a blog on the wrong product hoping to find some damn information.

I am so sick of this #^@!.

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Michael Ellison — Wed, 06 Dec 2006 20:14:18 GMT

Just blew a day tracking down problems in the new embedded manifest system for DLLs, right after wasting considerable time figuring out that VC8 can't generate import interfaces from complex COM objects correctly, such as PowerPoint's objects, and having to pull out VS6 to do it correctly. The IDE crashed daily (if not hourly) from intellisense until I reformatted all my template classes, and we won't even talk about the difficulties the time_t changes and trying to fix all the deprecation and security warnings caused.

It would be really nice if two things happened.

a.) A genuine bug tracker with vetted bugs were made available that developers could easily find and view, rather than an occasional post on some blog that's not exactly well linked to the product's pages...

b.) A little more testing prior to release. Development environments are mission-critical for many of us. I *hate* switching compilers, and when I am forced to switch, I'd sure like it to work at least as well as the previous revision (or in this case, 2 major versions back).

Unfortunately, my company upgraded to VC8 early - mainly due to the latest PSDK's not being compatible with anything else and the poor C# guys wanting the fixes in .NET 2.0. We're feeling the burn at this point, both in-house and when we ship to our customers.

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Marco Beninca — Tue, 12 Dec 2006 13:44:09 GMT

I installed the Service Pack but now I have a big problem! If I compile my application using the patched VS and VC++ 2005, then I install my application into a PC where I installed the previous version of the run-time libraries (vcredist_x86 of not-patched VC++) the application DOESN'T RUN!

I have to uninstall the old vcredist_x86 package and install the new one. Why did you create this breaking with the previous version of VC++?

Do you plan to solve this problem with the final release????

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Ted. — Tue, 19 Dec 2006 23:58:22 GMT

Marco, just define _USE_RTM_VERSION in your project settings or near the top of your stdafx.h and it will use the existing versions.

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Sascha — Wed, 20 Dec 2006 04:16:33 GMT

I agree with what has been said multiple times before: Why is it that something as crucial as the list of fixed bugs and changes has to be found on some low-traffic blog without any link from the official SP1 pages? Relying on our development environment is essential during short build and release cycles, but it seems that the developers have been totally neglected with this. I work in a LARGE corporation and we need to assess the risk before we upgrade to SP1, but how can I assess anything if there is no detailed information on the changes?

The above links are from June 22, is there anything newer? Is that still the final list? Can please someone make this publicly available??

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Marco Beninca — Wed, 20 Dec 2006 10:44:10 GMT

Thaks for the trick. But I have a question. Does a unluky developer to search any new Microsoft define in the .h include directory and try everything in order to make things to work?

Please, in the future write a complete documentation on how to use your SP.

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Marco Beninca — Wed, 20 Dec 2006 14:12:00 GMT

OK I tried and I found a very big BUG!!!

The define _USE_RTM_VERSION works fine for executables but has no effect on a MFC dll. So If I have an executable using a dll I can define _USE_RTM_VERSION on both the exe and the dll, compile everything but when I try to run the exe it doesn't start because the dll try to bind the SP1 run time libraries.

The only way is to rebuild the dll without using _USE_RMT_VERSION and install the run time libraries of the SP1.

Good job!

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Ted. — Wed, 20 Dec 2006 18:24:21 GMT

Yes, I noticed that the manifest of a wizard generated regular MFC DLL includes BOTH 50608.0 and 50727.762. Here is the generated manifest an MFC DLL.

</dependentAssembly>

</dependency>

</dependentAssembly>

</dependency>

</dependentAssembly>

</dependency>

</assembly>

Seems like a bad bug, hopefully someone will figure out a workaround.

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Ted. — Wed, 20 Dec 2006 19:15:26 GMT

bug posted here

https://connect.microsoft.com/VisualStudio/feedback/ViewFeedback.aspx?FeedbackID=247057

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Marco Beninca — Thu, 21 Dec 2006 10:32:43 GMT

I posted a workaround on the bug report page.

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Alex Evans — Thu, 04 Jan 2007 05:44:15 GMT

Hi there

I loaded SP1 (before reading this article) and my initial problems are still there

1) When trying to debug / step through the IDE could NOT find the mfc80d.dll (I know it is there..) so I had to copy it into the application folder, then it was missing another one etc... Seems strange that the IDE does not "Know" where its DLL's are

2) On exiting my application, it ASSERTS - AFTER my code, in both Release and debug mode and I can't figure out what / where...

Hope some can give me a hint here

Alex

aevans@leading.com.au

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Alex Evans — Thu, 04 Jan 2007 05:49:41 GMT

Hi there

I loaded SP1 (before reading this article) and my initial problems are still there

2) On exiting my application, it ASSERTS - AFTER my code, in both Release and debug mode and I can't figure out what / where...

Hope some can give me a hint here

Alex

aevans@leading.com.au

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Cluebat-man to the rescue — Fri, 19 Jan 2007 00:08:20 GMT

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Matt Fausey — Mon, 12 Feb 2007 23:18:23 GMT

Where can one download the "Microsoft Visual C++ 2005 Redistributable Package" for SP1?

Specifically, I'd like for Chilkat customers to be able to download vcredist_x86.exe but for VC2005 SP1. A customer will typically download and install the Chilkat components on his/her development machine and the runtimes are installed because Chilkat includes the merge module for VC++ v8.0.50727.762. However, when redeploying to an end-user computer, the runtime is missing and you get the dreaded "This application has failed to start because the application configuration is incorrect."

I'll be grateful if an answer is emailed to support@chilkatsoft.com

Best Regards,

Matt

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Sharad — Thu, 16 Aug 2007 15:34:16 GMT

Hi,

When i try to open multiple projects at a time my VC 6.0 hangs & there is no menu bar work & i am not able to work anything in VC. Please help me on this issue.

Thanks & Regards

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Sharad — Thu, 16 Aug 2007 15:34:41 GMT

Hi,

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