When are we liekly to be able to download it from the msdn subscription webiste ? - Many thanks.

Gregor

Should be in the next few days, but I'm hoping less than a week.

TTFN - Kent

Congratulation!

Looks like there is a bad link in the RSS feed for VS News on the home page. It brings up some sort of C# feed.

Microsoft today released Visual Studio 2005 Beta 1

Will the express version include MSBuild?

congratulations!!!

Walt -- Thank you, we'll get that changed (the feed was mislabelled)

TTFN - Kent

Congrats!

I started playing with the Visual Web Dev Express last night. GREAT STUFF. I can't wait for asp.net 2.0 to be released.

Cool stuff like this is why I didn't stay a tax accountant and went into IT.

Since I read that it was "out" and "get it here" I uninstalled VS 2003. I guess I should have attempted to download the beta *BEFORE* doing that. I'm just used to being able to download things that are claimed to be available for download.

why oh why can't have a simple freaking download link..

why do you insist on a freaking passport account, additional personal information, an e-mail confirmation (btw, passport was supposed to cut that stuff out remember? 'register once, login everywhere'? it's annonying!), and then you get a silly downloaded stub that forces you to jump through hoops, open up all kinds of ports on my firewall, etc?

Do you want me to develop with your product or not? Yes or no. Give me a download link.

There are dozens of alternatives.. you are NOT only the kid on the block

I agree about the annoyances of requiring passport for everything. I just submitted a bug report and not only did I have to get a passport account, I then had to confirm my email address (a whole separate step from initial registration) and then authorize my email address for release to ALL passport sites (!) just so I could get email alerts on my issue from MSDN.

Having said that, I'm LOVING the new VStudio, especially C# express (the one I've used most). One or two new quirks (including the one I submitted a bug report about) but for the most part all the annoyances I had with 2003 are fixed (this BETA feels more stable than 2003 FINAL), and a whole bunch of great new stuff I never even would have thought of. And generics and "yield" in the language - who could ask for more? :)

Now I'm just hoping you guys get VSS2005 right (please, please let's get basic functionality like renaming and not allowing files to be silently overwritten in the local folder without checking them out...)

This is for Stuart:

Do you actually have the VS2005 beta or just one of the express products?

If you have the VS beta, how did you get it? It is not yet available on the Universal Subscriber site?

Just curious

Just the express products, sorry, I may have gotten confused by the new branding. Are they not considered versions of VS2005?

Not even sure what differences to expect in the full version of VS2005. I use the Ent.Architect version of VS2003 and I haven't yet found anything that I really miss in the express version, except source code control.

Yes it is. Go and visit the sites

http://lab.msdn.microsoft.com/vs2005/get/default.aspx

and click on "Get the Visual Studio 2005 Beta" link.

Also, the link "Visual Studio 2005 Express Beta Products" are also free download for developers.

Benoyraj B

nice work all!

Any specific release date for the first beta of vs2005 for non-subscribers? I have vs2003 pro and can't wait!!! many thanks!

Just like to agree with dan heskett said about a having a simple download link. I have downloaded the stub but cannot get it to do anything when trying to get the install to work. I have to log on as an admin user, turn off my firewall and stay open to hackers for how many hours to get the express products?! You must be joking! give us a break and allow a simple download to the files needed and let us install when not connected to the net. This current system is exactly why Microsoft products are so prone to problems. If we need to in effect go naked into the jungle then I say no way.

Aubz

Just found a page with direct download urls on it
go here

http://lab.msdn.microsoft.com/productfeedback/viewFeedback.aspx?feedbackid=f472b36e-2c26-483a-bc73-0dd643d6aae2

Seems to be links to all of the express products as well as the ASP.NET v2.0 update.

Hope they work!

I couldn't find anywhere what the technical difference of Professional and Express is. Define "Lightweight" somewhere please!

Beta 1 is buggy as heck. Any idea when Beta 2 will be available?

Beta 2?

A few sleeps, anyway. Sorry, enjoy (and report -- http://lab.msdn.microsoft.com/productfeedback) the bugs.

Ali -- working on a comparison chart now. Should be up in a few days.

No worries. You guys are great and I love the beta version. I am just anxious. :)

Comparison chart, based on current knowledge:
http://lab.msdn.microsoft.com/vs2005/productinfo/productline/default.aspx

Microsoft lanched VS code name Whibdey at Tech.Ed and posted the official lunch at MSDN web site.
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Microsoft lanched VS code name Whibdey at Tech.Ed and posted the official lunch at MSDN web site. MSDN

Microsoft lanched VS code name Whibdey at Tech.Ed and posted the official lunch at MSDN web site. MSDN