Bored with computers

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mcampos — Tue, 30 Aug 2005 04:12:40 GMT

Peter, good comments. As another "bored" Microsoft employee I agree that the platform need more ideas that will provide better innovation and new solutions.

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Lorenzo Lamas — Tue, 30 Aug 2005 05:27:14 GMT

I can't help but remembering : didn't Microsoft buy Groove ?

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Not relevant — Tue, 30 Aug 2005 05:41:51 GMT

Well I am from the other side... :) open source afficionado and I am too bored with the computing landscape in general. I guess it comes a period that one must feel that way. Who knows. I am doing a lot of Java and I am a bit frustrated because it cannot reach deep into the os. It's like a toy to me to this day. I only program with it because I have a job. I would try .Net and C# but I'm too bored to learn it.

WinFS beta 1 released

Alex Barnett blog — Tue, 30 Aug 2005 06:49:42 GMT

Robert Scoble has uploaded the WinFS video to Channel 9. Haven't seen it myself yet, only just heard!...

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Name: required — Tue, 30 Aug 2005 06:57:02 GMT

ok, but didn't ms go out and buy groove? & if so how does msgroove now relate to the winfs project?

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Shital Shah — Tue, 30 Aug 2005 07:34:06 GMT

This piece of Groove history is surprise to me. I'd been working with Groove quite extensively and I guess Groove is one of the innovations that excites every hair on my skin ;). But besides that, the storage system built for Groove is essentially encrypted XML files and that suck so much that its impossible to have large data stored in to it. The design and implemetation of such a fantastic concept is so much screwed up that a P2P revolution would be late by few years. Vista would ship with MS P2P stack ships, which I believe is using internal version of SQL Server Express for its storage but I don't think its making hexagones ;).

Applications And Platforms, An Another Face Of Internet And Why I Hate Groove http://www.shitalshah.com/blog/ApplicationsAndPlatformsAnAnotherFaceOfInternetAndWhyIHateGroove.aspx

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Todd Bandrowsky — Tue, 30 Aug 2005 16:01:31 GMT

I'm very excited about WinFS. Instead of writing my whole own database server, I can now use profiles as Windows Files, and use WinFS to stitch everything together. This opens a whole floodgate of opportunities.

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Kazi — Tue, 30 Aug 2005 17:08:31 GMT

Thanks, very good, and WinFS is really amazing, excellent technology.

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Gabriele Del Giovine [Microsoft MVP - Sharepoint] — Wed, 31 Aug 2005 13:28:32 GMT

I love Rdb/VMS. One of the Best RDBMS.

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Lloyd — Wed, 31 Aug 2005 16:13:54 GMT

I wonder about 2 thing which were not really addressed in the Channel9 video. I am not a MSDN subscriber so I can't answer them myself...

1. You mention about provinding a file storage for 3rd parties app. Does that means that with WinFS I would be able to store my app's data, in a single file with internal database-like access and structure (which I would be able to update with WinFS API)?

2. I have an app now with its own (proprietary) file format. Would I be able to expose content of my file to other application through some WinFS magic?
like, let's say, my app's file contains items with name and type properties (both strings).
Could I extends WinFS in such way that WinFS could look up in my files for an item with a given name and/or property?

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