Don't Shoot The Messenger!

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Pregnant Man » Don’t Shoot The Messenger! — Sat, 26 Jul 2008 02:18:11 GMT

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re: Don't Shoot The Messenger!

reportered — Sat, 26 Jul 2008 10:09:26 GMT

I still can't understand why we the consumer can not make the choice as to what to install, and why the mobile operator is dictating.

For example why can't you make a version available which includes messenger too.

I would much rather use that than a 3rd party IM program.

re: Don't Shoot The Messenger!

Radeldudel — Sat, 26 Jul 2008 13:43:13 GMT

Windows live for mobile is great!

It acts a bit funny when you switch your smartphone off and on (tries to connect before I entered my pin, so I'll sure get an error after switching the phone on), and of course I'd love to get calendar syncing, but otherwise its great!

re: Don't Shoot The Messenger!

VinegarDoppio — Sat, 26 Jul 2008 14:07:48 GMT

Great ! ! the best application for Windows Mobile, is not included.

Microsoft must do a messenger to all devices that run Windows mobile, and to leave at the operator the possibility to unstill they version, if they want to support it in their phones.

I hope that windows mobile 7, resolve this issue, because now it's an enreasonable chose.

re: Don't Shoot The Messenger!

kettch — Mon, 28 Jul 2008 03:21:52 GMT

Microsoft definitely needs to show some courage and put our stiffer requirements for the software images that go on WM devices. Yeah, WM is an awesome platform, with a lot of flexibility, however that is causing problems. Especially with each carrier nerfing the devices/software in order to sell extra services. This results in so many different software and hardware configurations that not every device will run software the same. This is especially frustration for software developers, who often have to double check whether everything looks and functions the same on all these different devices.

Perhaps something can be done at the operating system level to make this easier, or maybe it has to happen at the licensing level, but something must be done.

re: Don't Shoot The Messenger!

fmcf — Thu, 01 Jan 2009 21:58:02 GMT

Totally agree with kettch and add to it. Replace "need" with "must"! There are five well defined roles in this game, IMHO:

1. Hardware manufacturer: creates awesome devices, period.

2. Carriers: provide awesome connectivity, period.

3. Microsoft: creates awesome operating system, applications and services

4. 3rd parties: creates awesome applications and services

5. Last, but not least, customer: gets access to awesome products and services paying as much as they are worth

Anything other than this is a messy scenario, with people doing things that are not their business, and at the end, that 5th guy will be the only one paying an awesome bill.

It's clear that carriers and manufacturers are messing the stage. Microsoft cannot be another contributor for this mess. Is must the one which will restablish the logical order of things. Otherwise maybe Google will do it...

re: Don't Shoot The Messenger!

bigjim01 — Tue, 03 Feb 2009 00:14:09 GMT

I don't care what the carriers want, it is my phone, not their's. I am paying for internet access on my phone, and I want the real client, not the web page access to Windows Live Messenger. AT&T includes the OCZ client which totally messes up the login experience in additon uses text messaging rather than the internet access. Please release the real Windows Live Messenger client!!!

re: Don't Shoot The Messenger!

khortoom — Sat, 21 Feb 2009 15:15:00 GMT

Well I see this is just some eye-candy... a look-but-don't-touch strategy works as long as some other guy doesn't offer an alternative...:)

Dunno what happenned to my WLM, but can't log in from ppc, and live contacts also disappeared from phone contact list. And... here I am with a useless offer from microsoft (live minus messenger).

Too much time already wasted on restoring Pocket pc WLM... and I'm starting to look at Fring as an alternative. Sorry guys.